big pin i'm hurt, i gave you my secret sumo training tape, so you could learn, not spread it over the threads!!! by now all of you have seen my secret hand slapping ability, make no mistake, it take years of practice to callous these babies. now you all know why i couldn't make it farther in hs wrestling, hand slaps are way too rough. they wouldn't let me compete. if beeson starts the HA WRESTLING LEAGUE, i might be able to make something of myself, until then i will continue to settle arguments in the backyard.