My youngest son Isaiah took 3rd at 8-75 tulsa kick off last year. We enter him in tulsa nationals at 8-85 same year. I get there & look at the bracket & he has #1 seed wrestler first match! He wins the match & wins tulsa nationals. After this happend I realized seed dont mean nothing. I like a low seed. Lets wrestle the best in the bracket first & its down hill from there

The best time for an upset is first round! Good luck to all!

Never judge Kansas seeding by the seeding that goes on at Tulsa! You know going in, the local favorite is going to get favorable seeding at Tulsa.

The kid was from Colorado. Not comparing sport0 just giving my opinion on seeding. good luck to all sat.

I'm not sure what you're hang-up is with East Kansas? You rip them 2x in your blogs here. You know one reason they list a lot of state placers, etc. They have them! This club is run by Eric Akin and Travis Phippen. Both collegiate all-americans. But more than that - if they say a kid has accomplished a certain achievement [fill in the blank] - they have - period. I think you would think differently if you really knew them. They are great honest people and great coaches .. and my friends.

As was I!

Jon,
What you said is true, but don't worry, we'll see what he says when they bring home the team trophy.
Bob

East Kansas has 59 kids going to subdistricts! I think that spells "true club"! I believe that is why we prepare all season and why we are here to get our club's competitors to the championships right? Why worry about a seeding if your kid is good and can beat a kid that got a better seeding just show up and prove it!
LETS WRESTLE!!!

Melissa Gowin

Seeding won't mean anything Saturday Evening. No one will care who the first seed was or who was the last seed. Lets just be nice and settle everything on the mats on Saturday. Let the wrestlers show everyone who is who.

Good luck to all

If seeds are that important to a wrestlers, coach, or parent. Then they need to do their homework and have it ready for when it comes to seeding mtgs. When i say homework have your facts right. I keep record of every match i boys wrestle. That include result if the match and in order it happened. as well i have every bracket to reference if need be. When and if i go to a seeding mtg and a controversary arises. I asked what they would like to see. If it involves my boys i have that on a piece of paper..tourny and opponent with result. If they are talking about other in the bracket i pull out previous and we look at. They will find scored of every match and possible common opponents if need be. Unless you have all the homework in front of you to use for your cause dont complain..just go out and like others have stated let the wrestlers decide results. once the whistle blows there are no more seeds.

Don't make accusations if you ain't gonna back it up. That's lame to calling out our club and then say you're not gonna say any specific names. Maybe you just don't want to put your money where your mouth is.

Irony of it is that you guys frequently have one of our coaches come run practices for your club.

Last I checked there were no seeding meeting medals, and the cream will always rise to the top no matter what the seeds are. But regardless of the seeding order there will always be those that whine over it.

We will wrestle anyone, anywhere, any round!

So all smack talk aside. . . be assured that we ain't comin' to talk smack. We're comin' to smack talkers!

... and that's why we love ya brutha!!

It's a fact...you want names, here's one......
Drake Mills 8 and under 61 this year and lastyear was 8 and under 55. He went 2 and out at districts. Here's the proof

http://www.twnode5.com/opentournaments/B...amp;templateId=

You guys have him as a state placer at the seeding meeting paperwork. Cut the above into your browser and check for yourself. I'm at work and will provide more later!!! Just be honest, the cream always rises to the top!!!!

He actually went 1 and 2. Sorry! Both are wrong

Maybe it just means at the end of each weekend; JKelz makes sure he knows how each of his wrestlers finished! and where they competed. They are a team!

Unless the Cream is put in a corner and then it spoils and turns to crap.

How about this to teach the coaches and parents a lesson. If they lie about whether they are a qualifier, placer,etc... and get caught pull them from the tourny.

What if it wasn't a lie...what if it was an honest mistake? Do you punish the kid because of an adult error?

punish them all. punish everyone. well except the refs.

thats right leave the refs alone...its their judgement