Age Rules??
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03/23/10 01:14 PM
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This may have been a topic before, but I am new to KS wrestling and just had a question about the age rules and why? Why is the b-day cutoff before the season starts? This makes no sense to me. A kid could turn 8 in 2010 and wrestle 6 and under?? or a kid turning 10 this year could wrestle 8 and under?? and so on. What in the world is going on? How is this in any way fair to the other kids? It puts the others at a big disadvantage in my opinion. I mean kids can be 7,9,11.... before the season starts and wrestle down? Could anyone make any sense of this to me? or why won't it change? The reason I was asking is, I was watching kids at Ottawa this last weekend and thinking, wow, that kid has really caught on quick and i wouldn't want to be in his path in a few years. Only to find out that kids could be 6 months away from turning 8 wrestling 6 and under!!
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 01:36 PM
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they can be 7 and be able to wrestle 6U but they can't be 8
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 01:40 PM
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i have 3 boys with Dec.,March, and June b-days. the only one with the slight advantage is the Dec. b-day.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 01:45 PM
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luellen
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go to ks wrestling home page click on kids division & the age tables are in there. summer birthdays are not good.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 01:53 PM
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I don't think you could pick a cutoff date that would be 100% fair to everyone. If you did it on Jan 1st then a bunch of kids would be changing up during the season. So it prob has to do with w/ the likely hood that the kids involved would be less than 6 months older than the age group they are in. As you go through the system you see how this eventually works out. It just seems a little daunting when they are younger. Imagine if your wrestler had a Dec 31st birthday, how that would work into the equation.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 01:59 PM
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Well it isn't fair becuase I have a son with an August 30 birthday and he is always on the bottom. He never really is on the top of his age group. Even though it isn't fair we cant change so we deal with it. If it wasn't the Sept. 1st date then it could be Jan 1st and then the people with Dec birthdays would be in the boat. Someone always has to be the youngest and the oldest. Wrestle hard and do your best.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 02:17 PM
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you just need to plan better when your going to have a kid,, getting pregnant in December or January would solve the problem
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 02:24 PM
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Imagine if your wrestler had a Dec 31st birthday, how that would work into the equation.
My son's is Dec 29th! He wrestles up an age class in Missouri or at National tournaments where most cut off dates are Jan 1st. He'll be a Cadet as an 8th grader. I keep asking him why he didn't wait three days to be born!
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03/23/10 02:25 PM
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Well it isn't fair becuase I have a son with an August 30 birthday and he is always on the bottom. He never really is on the top of his age group. Even though it isn't fair we cant change so we deal with it. If it wasn't the Sept. 1st date then it could be Jan 1st and then the people with Dec birthdays would be in the boat. Someone always has to be the youngest and the oldest. Wrestle hard and do your best. If the Cut off is August 31st, then you August 30th birthday is good. September 1st on the otherhand is a basketball birthday!
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 02:35 PM
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yes it is. brainfart. my apologies.A little dyslexia this morning. August Bad, September Good.
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03/23/10 02:38 PM
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 02:42 PM
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luellen
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you just need to plan better when your going to have a kid,, getting pregnant in December or January would solve the problem I personally am not willing to wait that long.
Lazy hands make for poverty, but diligent hands bring wealth.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 03:18 PM
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Chris Marcum
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Wouldn't Jan 1 at least be more suitable? since the biggest part of the season starts after the new year? I know they can't be 8 and wrestle 6U. but they can be 6 months off of 8 by the time state rolls around. In my opinion the Missouri age groups make more sense. I just don't see the reasoning behind this. Even September 1 is 2-3 months before most tournaments. Does anyone else see the crazyness in this? Or is it just accepted? Is this just a KS thing or is it pretty universal around the country?
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03/23/10 03:29 PM
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I think a lot of people have wonderered why Sept 1 is the cutoff, but realize that no matter where the cutoff is, some will benefit and some will do the opposite of benefit, whatever that word is. Therefore there has been no real push to change the date, crazy or not.
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03/23/10 03:30 PM
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I know they can't be 8 and wrestle 6U. but they can be 6 months off of 8 by the time state rolls around. but that also means that just 6 months before state rolled around they were 6
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03/23/10 03:40 PM
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Its the same reason that the cuttoff for entering kindergarten is august 1st because its been that way from da 1 and always will be! No matter what day of the year they pick it will always be unfair to someone that has a bday before the date and not after!
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Well it isn't fair becuase I have a son with an August 30 birthday and he is always on the bottom. He never really is on the top of his age group. Even though it isn't fair we cant change so we deal with it. If it wasn't the Sept. 1st date then it could be Jan 1st and then the people with Dec birthdays would be in the boat. Someone always has to be the youngest and the oldest. Wrestle hard and do your best. Was labor induced?? If it was, then make the world a better place and punch the doctor in the face.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 04:14 PM
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down year/ up year you can't change that. think about it there will always be a kid with a "good" birthday THIS YEAR, next year it's a "bad" birthday. it's common sense. we all make too, much of the little things.
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Re: Age Rules??
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03/23/10 04:15 PM
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that's if they were born in sept. let's get a count of all the kids currently holding a usa wrestling card and see which month has the most birthdays down to the least amount of birthdays. and put the cutoff date on the least amount so it won't effect to many kids getting an advantage of what month they were born in.
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