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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: Beeson] #166307 03/24/10 01:38 AM
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IM just making a suggestion on how it could be done. I dont care but my son wants to be challenged if he gets second.

Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ] #166308 03/24/10 01:51 AM
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I think your son's last name probably evens the field! I have a cousin with the last name Killer! smile


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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ] #166309 03/24/10 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: MarkButcher
IM just making a suggestion on how it could be done. I dont care but my son wants to be challenged if he gets second.

If he gets 2nd, I would say that he has already been challenged.


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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: Paratroop] #166311 03/24/10 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: Paratroop
I think your son's last name probably evens the field! I have a cousin with the last name Killer! smile

Bronson,

Are you sure your last name isn't Killer, 'cause you are killin' me? The best of luck to all the Sunflower kids wrestling at State. Sean, please tell all the STA kids who made it this far that I will be rooting for them as well. My son and I are extremely fortunate to have been a part of two clubs as special as these two are.


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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ReDPloyd] #166312 03/24/10 02:29 AM
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He said that it would make him feel better about himself knowing he is a true second by giving the other kid a chance.

Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ] #166314 03/24/10 02:45 AM
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I am happy either way....I'm out!

Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ] #166315 03/24/10 02:56 AM
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Mark,

From a parent/coach/wrestler that has been involved in this sport since the age of eight, I tend to try to make light of things when I can. There are times that I am dead serious, but most of the time I realize how hard it is for kids to compete in a sport this tough. I am sure that you and your son are extremely happy to be going to the State Championship tournament next weekend. If he finishes 2nd, he has earned 2nd. He shouldn't have to prove to anyone that he is better than 3rd (unless he threw a match at Districts to get on the opposite side of the bracket from the best wrestler in the State like I have come to understand happens).

My son just finished up his ninth year of wrestling. Before this year, he had made it to State two out of the last three years winning three matches at those two State tournaments. He physically and mentally developed well beyond where he was last year, and became a better technical wrestler as well. It showed as he went 53-17 this year including his Jr High record. He graciously bowed out going 0-2 at Districts in one of the toughest District brackets in the State, competing to the best of his ability all the way through. He would have been more than thrilled to place 6th at State this year, let alone 2nd.


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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ReDPloyd] #166318 03/24/10 03:30 AM
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we are new to this sport. This is only our first year in the open division. My son got to challenge for second at the Kickoff and I asked him what he thaught about it. Im giving his opinion. He voted yes, not me. I think that more kids are aginst it then for it so i dont think mutch will come from all this. 4 out of 5 kids i asked said no. (not counting my son) Only one was intrested in the idea of someone challenging him for second.

Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: ] #166319 03/24/10 03:33 AM
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Its a hard one! crazy

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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: Toe2Toe] #166576 03/25/10 06:59 PM
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i believe taking third is more enjoyable than taking second... yes it is great to go to the finals, but thats why they are the FINALS... in other words they should be the final match and all challenge matches do is put a wrestler who is sad because he lost in the finals against a kid who just fought his way on the backside and is fired up


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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: Jeff Smith] #166728 03/27/10 02:20 AM
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NO! First is all that matters. Good Luck!

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Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: Toe2Toe] #167002 03/30/10 12:24 AM
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Seeding sounds very difficult. What about the kid that has grown and goes up a weight class just before subs. I don't think wrestling for a "true 2nd" makes sense either. Do we then wrestle for a "true 4th???"

P.S. My son came in with a 4th place finish, beat two firsts, a second and a third on the way to a third place finish. There is no better adrenaline rush.

Re: Do challenge matches for 2nd make sense at state? [Re: bengal83] #167057 03/30/10 03:08 AM
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