Ok. Lots of posts dragging me through the coals. Will try to answer in this one post. Bear with me--I will be jumping around.

Cochise copied and relisted several of my posts. Yes they are mine and I stand by each of them. What I do not see in my posts, but Cochise says he does, is name calling and accusations. I see no words in my posts like ignorant, dumb, stupid , or asking for someone's IQ-which in itself is leanding to a slander--especially when leaving two underlined blanks for a response indicating an IQ of less than 100. But, if I go back through a whole lot of posts from whom I assume are Catholics, I have been called or labeled each of those terms: dumb, ignorant, stupid, and my IQ belittled. Those words appear to be quite common in the Catholic vocabulary. Additionally, according to Cochise--and several other posters-I have demeaned, ridiculed, slandered, etc. Catholics, the Catholic Church, Catholic schools, Catholic families, whatever. Not in the posts Cochise copied-go read them and give me the exact slanderous terms I used. Go read any of my posts and show me where I have attacked a person or a religion--I have said a some bad things to or about Cokely or MFE--but nothing concerned with religion-and I continue to think MFE's saying he wants to slap the shit out of someone, MFE's saying inner city kids look like "pimps and prostitute, and Cokely's use of the vile word "pussification"-are the most tasteless comments on this forum. I See no Catholic comming on line and telling MFE and Cokely to clean it up.

What I am going to say now is the harshest comment I have or will post: To me many of you are paranoid: everyone is attacking you personally, attacking your religion. I suscribe to a couple of on-line Hebrew Newspapers. Catholics, on this forum, on this topic, on this issue, sound like Jews when anyone, Jew or non-Jew asks a simple question about Israel, Arabs in Israel, Palestinians, Gaza, or the West Bank. The immediate response is 'your an anti-semite", "a Jew hater", "a Jew baiter", or some other less gentle name. From the Catholics I hear anti-Catholic, Catholic hater, Catholic baiter, stupid, dumb, or ignorant.

This post and this topic is no way about religion. It is about perceived or actual disparities between public and private schools and the number of high school state championships.

KC Sportsmom. Her question to me: "WHY the multiplier would be better for KS wrestling than other to punish Catholic/private schools? Please explain. In all honesty it would not affect wrestling. To me wrestling is not the sport in question. I consider wrestling a sport of individuals, individuals who win individual champioships--and by the way those individual efforts are then awarded team points so some school can be called the State Team Champ. I, and several others, have listed and
discussed the percentage of private schools (6+ percent) to public schools. Probably the reason the modifier would not affect wrestling-the percentage of private school wrestlers to public school wrestler is probably 1% or 2%. Why the low percentage. From what I have seen at tournaments (the B/L Bobcat, Baldwin Invitational, regionals) private schools seldom come with a full roster of wrestler, much less a roster of high quality wrestlers. Meige this past year had maybe four quality wrestlers, if that many. STA had maybe four quality wrestlers. SJA, four or five quality wrestlers. As you go to the smaller school classification, the number of public schools increase, the number of wrestlers increase, and the number of private schools and wrestlers decrease. Too much competition to fight through for the private school wrestlers and teams. If there is a multiplier, or a classification bump, private school wrestlers will be affested--fair or unfair-they just got caught in a movement. And lastly I do not, nor do I think other posters think-this issue is designed just to punish private schools.

A couple of words. The Issue of state championships is about team field sports: football, basketball soccer, volleyball, softball, and baseball. This issue is not about inner city schools in any classification. Inner city schools have lots of problems, the least being able to compete in athletics against either surban public or private schools. Not going to happen, except in basketball, the inner city sport (Sumner Academy in downtown KCKS was this year's 4A BB Champ--I think they beat two parochial schools--SJA in the District and Topeka Hayden in the State). Continuing. What this issue is about is the disparity in State championships-in field sports-between suburban public schools and suburban private schools--including the disparity in championships in public and private shools in smaller towns and rural Kansas. Kids on these team, public and private, come from the same or similiar situations: finacial, religious, club sports, family support, HS sports and activities, etc. If they have all these coomon attributes, why the disparity in state championships--and there is a disparity. Why would the NCK and Frontier Leagues initiate the proposals to modify, to split classifications, to bump private schools a classification, to move private schools totally to separate classifications. There must be a perceived or actual disparity, a year after year disparity.

Enuff said!

An added late comment. Cochise asks what do I have against Cokely. Nothing. I would not know the man if he knocked on my front door.

I have been a member of this forum for two or three years. From day one I have read Cokely's rantings, ravings, name calling, accusations, vile word "pussification", politics etc. You know what I classify Cokely to be--A BULLY!! The louder he screams the more he thinks people will ignore his antics and back off. I think most people recognize his behavior.

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Bill Mason Lansing