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Re: 2010-11 All-Class Rankings! [Re: ReDPloyd] #173694 10/22/10 08:16 PM
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PJ is an animal as well. Strength, quickness, and a very good knowledge base for wrestling. He will be tough to beat, especially if he grew during the summer.


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Just a shout out but Cole Cannon is going to make some eyes open at 215

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Just a shout out but Cole Cannon is going to make some eyes open at 215

Re: 2010-11 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Jess Keith] #173701 10/23/10 04:44 AM
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Going back to 171, If free of injury, look for Spencer Wilson to be in your top 5 before the year is up. The kid is underestimated by coaches and opponent's. He has a proven record against nationally ranked wrestlers and is improving every day. He just needs a haircut!!! - Get it done Ed. Sorry Spencer, but go LHS - You should have stayed with them as you will never beat them

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And after Spencer gets his haicut, bring Tucker by as he should be next in line

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Originally Posted By: kvk coach
Going back to 171, If free of injury, look for Spencer Wilson to be in your top 5 before the year is up. He just needs a haircut!!! - Get it done Ed.


I don't know. I think that it (his hair) is his magical power! I say keep it Spencer. It's done you good so far. smile

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TEAM RANKINGS: Updated at 145/152.

1. Lansing - 5A
2. Goddard - 6A
3. Wichita Heights - 6A
4. Andover Central - 5A
5. Clay Center - 4A
6. Andale - 4A
7. Derby - 6A
8. Kapaun Mt. Carmel - 5A
9. Norton - 321A
10. St. James Academy - 4A


103:
1. Javier Vieyra - 11 - SS - 5A
2. Dakota Leach - 10 - GD - 6A
3. Jr. Morgan - 10 - AB - 4A
4. Cullen Hood - 10 - LOU - 4A
5. Colt Skillman - 12 - BL - 321A
6. Jason Perez - 11 - ULY - 4A
7. Luis Escarcega - 11 - GC - 6A
8. Jake Roberts - 12 - CC - 4A
9. Hunter Price - 10 - HOL - 4A
10. PJ Cheney - 9 - TUR - 5A


112:
1. Zac Gentzler - 10 - AC - 5A
2. Tim Prescott - 11 - MCP - 5A
3. Dustin Reed - 10 - CLB - 4A
4. Kaleb Bonilla - 12 - GD - 6A
5. Chris Sullivan - 11 - HUT - 6A
6. Kevin Keller - 12 - LS - 5A
7. Jace Roy - 11 - PV - 4A
8. Alex Wolf - 11 - SV - 4a
9. Anthony Calderon - 11 - GC - 6A
10. Chandler Gordon - 11 - SMNW - 6A


119:
1. Austin Hood - 11 - LOU - 4A
2. Dylan Schumacher - 11 - TMP - 321A
3. Bo Newport - 12 - PV - 4A
4. Hunter Haralson - 10 - LAW - 6A
5. Tyler Dryden - 12 - KMC - 5A
6. Caleb Seaton - 12 - BS - 4A
7. Bryce Shoemaker - 10 - BAL - 4A
8. Taelor Mendenhall - 11 - CON - 4A
9. Clay Mulligan - 11 - SC - 321A
10. Cody Eastman - 10 - ARK - 5A


125:
1. Bo Pursel - 11 - LS - 5A
2. Cody Beasley - 12 - WC - 6A
3. Zach Hoehn - 12 - WEL - 321A
4. Colby Watters - 11 - ARK - 5A
5. Ross Whitmore - 12 - SMNW - 6A
6. Tre Humphrey - 12 - SMS - 6A
7. Dane Norris - 12 - MH - 6A
8. Tim Wrestler - 12 - CH - 4A
9. Zac Litvak - 12 - GE - 5A
10. Robbie Hines - 12 - ULY - 4A


130:
1. Daniel DeShazer - 12 - WH - 6A
2. Jake Gentzler - 12 - AC - 5A
3. Kyle Johnson - 12 - COL - 4A
4. Mario Corado - 12 - PT - 5A
5. Troy Bainter - 12 - NO - 321A
6. Konnor Kriss - 11 - CLB - 4A
7. Skyler McComb - 12 - DB - 6A
8. Chase Locke - 11 - MZ - 6A
9. Jayde Kolterman - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Zac Dremel - 11- OS - 6A


135:
1. Brandon Charbonneau - 11 - EMP - 5A
2. Symon Seaton - 12 - BL - 4A
3. Dalton Davis - 12 - LA - 321A
4. Johanthan Blackwell - 10 - BS - 4A
5. Travis Reinhart - 12 - DB - 6A
6. Braxton Medina - 11 - GC - 6A
7. Cole Schreiner - 12 - SEA - 5A
8. Aaron Seybold - 11 - PT - 5A
9. Trevor Cox - 11 - MZ - 6A
10. Tommy Williams - 11 - STA - 5A


140:
1. Zack Tanenbaum - 12 - BVN - 6A
2. Spencer Blew - 12 - LS - 5A
3. Colton Eck - 12 - AN - 4A
4. Bradley Little - 12 - DB - 6A
5. BT O'Hara - 12 - COL - 4A
6. Kale Newell - 12 - SC - 321A
7. Ky Biddle - 11 - BC - 321A
8. Aaron Puckett - 10 - BS - 4A
9. Billy Broeckelman - 12 - NO - 321A
10. Dustin Williams - 9 - GE - 5A


145:
1. Taylor Moeder - 12 - SJA - 4A
2. Trey Houlden - 12 - GD - 6A
3. Nick Collins - 12 - AUG - 4A
4. Alex Bontz - 11 - AC - 5A
5. Levi Eck - 10 - AN - 4A
6. Tyler McMichael - 11 - BC - 321A
7. Garrett Hinckley - 12 - LS - 5A
8. Tre Schrimscher - 12 - WH - 6A
9. Austin Southards - 12 - VC - 5A
10. Patrick Weaver - 10 - HUG - 4A


152:
1. Connor Middleton - 11 - ONW - 6A
2. Colton Picking - 12 - AB - 4A
3. Sam Son - 11 - CH - 4A
4. Dillon Scanlon - 12 - LS - 5A
5. Ulyesses DeShazer - 11 - WH - 6A
6. Brent Koehn - 11 - PT - 5A
7. Jon Heiman - 11 - GC - 6A
8. Kyle White - 12 - HOR - 321A
9. Dawson Elliott - 12 - GD - 6A
10. Bryant Guillen - 10 - SEA - 5A


160:
1. Ryne Cokeley - 12 - SJA - 4A
2. Chase Sanchez - 12 - EMP - 5A
3. Matt Reed - 11 - WH - 6A
4. Jake Hattabaugh - 12 - AN - 4A
5. Spencer Shirk - 12 - NO - 321A
6. Colton Easterberg - 12 - CC - 4A
7. Drake Lovvorn - 12 - HOL - 4A
8. Sterling Terry - 12 - ARK - 5A
9. Jacob Eggers - 11 - DC - 6A
10. Tyler Terron - 12 - LS - 5A


171:
1. Reece Wright-Conklin - 11 - LAW - 6A
2. Dylan Penka - 12 - KMC - 5A
3. Tyler Baughman - 12 - LS - 5A
4. Devon Keith - 12 - BC - 5A
5. Jake Delp - 12 - CC - 4A
6. Landon Keiswetter - 12 - NO - 321A
7. Casey Sedbrook - 12 - HAY - 5A
8. Domonique Henderson - 12 - WH - 6A
9. Riley Denny - 10 - CV - 321A
10. Hunter Weddington - 11 - AD - 5A


189:
1. Tate Omli - 12 - ELL - 321A
2. Zach Anderson - 12 - CC - 4A
3. Zack Grimes - 12 - OZ - 4A
4. Dalton Beard - 12 - GD - 6A
5. Donnie Lockhart - 12 - SH - 5A
6. Kaid McKenna - 12 - NO - 321A
7. Taylor Baird - 12 - PRT - 4A
8. Luke Bean - 11 - KMC - 5A
9. Justin McPhail - 11 - LIB - 5A
10. Colt Castlebury - 11 - DG - 321A



215:
1. Gage Knudson - 12 - JC - 6A
2. Leo Beck - 12 - MV - 5A
3. Eric Mason - 11 - STA - 5A
4. Luke Hayes - 11 - SC - 321A
5. John Siale - 12 - CHP - 321A
6. Taylor Kettler - 12 - SH - 4A
7. Shawn Marlatt - 11 - DB - 6A
8. Kyle Pacheco - 12 - GE - 5A
9. Zach Lanning - 11 - MCP - 5A
10. Nathan Butler - 10 - LV - 6A


285:
1. Dillon Salmans - 12 - HOX - 321A
2. Jesse Trent - 12 - DC - 6A
3. Derek Holly - 12 - SH - 5A
4. Tylor Woodruff - 11 - GD - 6A
5. Clay Wilcox - 10 - CHP - 321A
6. John Denner - 12 - HIA - 4A
7. Dakota Denny - 12 - CV - 321A
8. Travis Anderson - 12 - DB - 6A
9. Josh Martinez - 12 - MAR - 321A
10. Justin Walberg - 12 - STA - 5A


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Re: 2010-11 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #173800 10/26/10 07:59 AM
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Good for PJ! A tough kid who can make a big splash as a freshman! A longtime Akin wrestler who's put some time in!


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Re: 2010-11 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Paratroop] #173867 10/27/10 04:15 AM
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Chief,

St. James placed 8th at state last year, 4A. Their 2 best wrestlers are back; and the only 2 from the team ranked in your rankings; yet you have them ranked as the 10th best team in the state. Doesn't add up.

At 135 you have Williams from Aquinas ranked 10th. He didn't place at state last year. I don't see how he can go from not placing at state in 5A to be being 10th all class? Saying he placed as a freshman at 103 isn't enough criteria.

At 285, the only 4A kid ranked, Denner, did not place in 4A last year. However, 2 285s who did place, Augusta and Eudora, aren't ranked.

At 171 you have Jake Delp CC. Last year he wrestled 215 and finished 3rd 4A. Either he was wrestling up 30 or 40 pounds, or he cut off some limbs.

At 215, the only 4A kid ranked is Kettler. He lost to Delp, Clay Center, at state last year, but Delp isn't ranked. There are a couple of other 4A 215 pounders who placed last year, but are unranked. I think 4A 215 is tougher than 5A. 5A 215 looks very weak again this year, but yet you have 4 kids ranked.

How do your justify Riley Denny as a top 10 171? It's tough for a sophomore in the upper weight classes.

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Chief,

St. James placed 8th at state last year, 4A. Their 2 best wrestlers are back; and the only 2 from the team ranked in your rankings; yet you have them ranked as the 10th best team in the state. Doesn't add up.

St. James has 6 Qualifiers returning, including two champions. They have two impact freshmen in Reese Cokeley and Trent Salsbury. Zack Pollom got 4th at the Fall Brawl at 171, beating Spencer Wilson and losing in OT to a tough MO kid. Mancuso, Vielhauer and Rory Haug will score points and may place. Do not discount this team. Another team that could fill that #10 is Pittsburg.

Originally Posted By: fragged91
At 135 you have Williams from Aquinas ranked 10th. He didn't place at state last year. I don't see how he can go from not placing at state in 5A to be being 10th all class? Saying he placed as a freshman at 103 isn't enough criteria.

After placing as a freshman as well as earning his AA at Fargo, Tommy won 36 matches last year and admittedly had a bad state tournament. He may end up at 130, but when I got to #10 at 135 I considered Johns, Costa, Armstrong, Blackwell and Sharpe among others. I personally think Tommy can beat those guys.

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At 285, the only 4A kid ranked, Denner, did not place in 4A last year. However, 2 285s who did place, Augusta and Eudora, aren't ranked.

That one is easy. Henning is no longer at Augusta and Molby moved out of state.

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At 171 you have Jake Delp CC. Last year he wrestled 215 and finished 3rd 4A. Either he was wrestling up 30 or 40 pounds, or he cut off some limbs.

A combination of both. He was wrestling up and he IS wrestling 171 this year.

Originally Posted By: fragged91
At 215, the only 4A kid ranked is Kettler. He lost to Delp, Clay Center, at state last year, but Delp isn't ranked. There are a couple of other 4A 215 pounders who placed last year, but are unranked. I think 4A 215 is tougher than 5A. 5A 215 looks very weak again this year, but yet you have 4 kids ranked.

As stated above, Delp is ranked at 171. A case could be made that Oslidal is better than Pacheco, Lanning and Butler. But I haven't heard it.

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How do your justify Riley Denny as a top 10 171? It's tough for a sophomore in the upper weight classes.

This point could have merit. Weddington is probably better than Denny. Others could be Nick Meck, Shockley or Wilson. Any ideas?

Appreciate the post!





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Re: 2010-11 All-Class Rankings! [Re: Chief Renegade] #173883 10/27/10 01:37 PM
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Delp was wrestling up last year. He weighed 185 at the end of last season. My 189 pounder last season was the 4A 189 state Runner Up. I looked on Ottawa's Football Roster and Oslidil is slated weighing 250, so the likes of him going 215 might be slim.


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Originally Posted By: BrandonPigorsch
Delp was wrestling up last year. He weighed 185 at the end of last season. My 189 pounder last season was the 4A 189 state Runner Up. I looked on Ottawa's Football Roster and Oslidil is slated weighing 250, so the likes of him going 215 might be slim.


I am guessing that is his "football" weight. It is funny to me how these kids get 20 lbs added to their weight when they are playing football and then suddenly they are much lighter when they come out for wrestling. Then you have the kids who really weigh 180 but his coach or parents say they weigh 160. Why can't be all just be honest? Maybe football weight includes pads, helmet, and cleats? smile


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I think Channing Hosey from Labette County will impact the 171 lb weight class

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Originally Posted By: fragged91
Chief,

St. James placed 8th at state last year, 4A. Their 2 best wrestlers are back; and the only 2 from the team ranked in your rankings; yet you have them ranked as the 10th best team in the state. Doesn't add up.

At 135 you have Williams from Aquinas ranked 10th. He didn't place at state last year. I don't see how he can go from not placing at state in 5A to be being 10th all class? Saying he placed as a freshman at 103 isn't enough criteria.

At 285, the only 4A kid ranked, Denner, did not place in 4A last year. However, 2 285s who did place, Augusta and Eudora, aren't ranked.

At 171 you have Jake Delp CC. Last year he wrestled 215 and finished 3rd 4A. Either he was wrestling up 30 or 40 pounds, or he cut off some limbs.

At 215, the only 4A kid ranked is Kettler. He lost to Delp, Clay Center, at state last year, but Delp isn't ranked. There are a couple of other 4A 215 pounders who placed last year, but are unranked. I think 4A 215 is tougher than 5A. 5A 215 looks very weak again this year, but yet you have 4 kids ranked.

How do your justify Riley Denny as a top 10 171? It's tough for a sophomore in the upper weight classes.





Next time know your facts before you post, and maybe just maybe chief has more of an idea of what he is talking about than a junior member with 1 post.

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Fussy? Nothing wrong with the questions. Even Chief mentioned it was a good post. Anything wrong with being a junior member? first post?


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I agree with Chief. Watch out for Saint James, Pittsburg, Lousiburg, Bonner Springs, and Baldwin. There are a lot of over looked teams that can make a difference at the end of the year.

It was stated over a month ago that Delp is going to be at 171 and will be a monster. He could easily contend with the top 4 171 pounders.

Tommy has always been a hit and miss kid to rank. He beats kids that are ranked high like Hunter Haralson and Issac Ruiz, but when it comes to crunch time he doesn't always get the job done. I would expect him to go 130 by the end of the year though and he will probably break the top 4.

4a 215 and 285 are kind of wide open as of right now with no returning placers at 285 anything could happen. Some one to watch out for at 215 is the Eudora football all-star Boomer Mays.

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Chief,

How do your justify Riley Denny as a top 10 171? It's tough for a sophomore in the upper weight classes.





Matt Reed was very successful at 171 as a sophomore last year.


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I agree with Chief. Watch out for Saint James, Pittsburg, Lousiburg, Bonner Springs, and Baldwin. There are a lot of over looked teams that can make a difference at the end of the year.


Pittsburg will be tough but they will be without two returning state placers for most of the year.


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who will Pitt be missing?

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Koehn and the 103 from last year?

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