What I have seen is coaches/dads getting carried away with the "be mean" phase, seeing kids having to endure chinning of the eyes and face. Stupid stuff that punk dads show their kids. I love an aggressive wrestler, but teaching the dirty stuff makes me want to walk to the other corner and give "Coach Dad" a taste of his own medicine........Kids that wrestle like that WILL run other kids (and moms especially) off from the sport.