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#3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University #179990 01/26/11 05:55 PM
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Where: Newman University
Who: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard 5:30
Newman University vs Oklahoma City University 7:30



Line up:(14 wrestlers ranked in 6A)
Derby_________Goddard
Gage Wells vs Dakotah Leach
Jeffrey Morrow vs Kaleb Bonilla
Jarred Suppes vs Justyn Martinez
Chandler Ayer vs Ricky Spangler
Skylar McComb vs Christian Frame
Brady Heincker vs Lincoln Lemon
Bradly Little vs Blake Mitchell
Ben Becker vs Trey Houlden
Jarred Morrow vs Tyler Kimple
Jessie Lintz vs Sean Mararo
Tree Chavez vs Tyler Higgins
Gary Schoeppel vs Dalton Beard
Shawn Marlatt vs Kevin Le / Tylor Woodruff
Travis Anderson vs Tylor Woodruff/ Austen Killian

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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: coachp] #180029 01/26/11 11:11 PM
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Surely Little and Houlden will wrestle at their current weight, 145. They should end the dual with that match-up.


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: Chief Renegade] #180031 01/26/11 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Surely Little and Houlden will wrestle at their current weight, 145. They should end the dual with that match-up.
Eric:

I know this is difficult for you to believe but the Derby and Goddard coaches will adjust their rosters to maximize their team's strength in order to score the most team points and win the dual. The contest tonight is a TEAM event.

As I recall, Little is certified at 140 lbs. and if that is the weight classification he weighed in and qualified for that may provide Coach Ross with a strategic advantage.


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: RichardDSalyer] #180032 01/26/11 11:51 PM
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Rich,

I know Little certified there. I also know it was a tough pull for him to make 42 again. Why trade sixes when you could possibly sweep both weights? Becker over Mitchell and Little over Houlden.

I know it's hard for you to figure that out but don't you also agree that would give Derby an advantage?


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: Chief Renegade] #180036 01/27/11 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
I know it's hard for you to figure that out but don't you also agree that would give Derby an advantage?
What is not hard for me to figure out is Coach Ross and Coach Means will do whatever they feel is best in order for their team to win the dual.


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: RichardDSalyer] #180037 01/27/11 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
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I know it's hard for you to figure that out but don't you also agree that would give Derby an advantage?
What is not hard for me to figure out is Coach Ross and Coach Means will do whatever they feel is best in order for their team to win the dual.


Really? I thought they would intentionally throw it. Go out on a limb Richard. Actually state an opinion on here instead of cut and pasting results. Get into the sport. Talk strategy. I know you can do it!


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: Chief Renegade] #180041 01/27/11 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Really? I thought they would intentionally throw it.
This does not surprise me however I can assure you Coach Ross and Coach Means are of high ethical and moral standards and would never consider such a thing.


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: RichardDSalyer] #180043 01/27/11 12:58 AM
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Derby/Goddard tie 31-31


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Okay Jerry tell us what heppened at 145.
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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: J. Dale] #180047 01/27/11 01:06 AM
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So Goddard won on criteria? How was Becker awarded the match when there was no penalty called on Houlden? Can anyone verify what happened there?


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: Chief Renegade] #180050 01/27/11 01:31 AM
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Gage Wells vs Dakotah Leach Leach by pin 6-0
Jeffrey Morrow vs Kaleb Bonilla Bonilla 6-4 9-0
Jarred Suppes vs Justyn Martinez Martinez 3-2 12-0
Chandler Ayer vs Ricky Spangler Spangler 4-2 ot 15-0
Skylar McComb vs Christian Frame McComb Pin 15-6
Brady Heincker vs Lincoln Lemon Heincker 6-1 15-9
Bradly Little vs Blake Mitchell Little Pin 15-15
Ben Becker vs Trey Houlden Becker inj/penalty 15-21
Jarred Morrow vs Tyler Kimple kimple 2-1 18-21
Jessie Lintz vs Sean Mararo lintz 14-0 18-25
Tree Chavez vs Tyler Higgins Higgins pin 24-25
Gary Schoeppel vs Dalton Beard Beard 16-3 28-25
Shawn Marlatt vs Kevin Le Le 9-7 ot 31-25
Travis Anderson vs Tylor Woodruff Anderson Pin 31-31

Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: wrestling67] #180060 01/27/11 02:11 AM
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Correction to 215 and 285
215 Tylor woodruff vs Shawn Marlatt - Woodruff 9-7 OT
285 Austin Killien vs Travis Anderson - Anderson Pin


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: bawoody] #180064 01/27/11 02:41 AM
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Looks like it was pretty exciting!

Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: smokeycabin] #180068 01/27/11 02:50 AM
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becker was losing 5-2 when the match was ended.

Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: BigEd] #180091 01/27/11 04:31 AM
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Yes I wouldn't see the point in trading pin's by separating Little and Houlden ..


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Originally Posted By: Chase
Yes I wouldn't see the point in trading pin's by separating Little and Houlden ..


Exactly.


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Re: #3 Derby vs #2 Goddard Dual @ Newman University [Re: Chief Renegade] #180119 01/27/11 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
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Yes I wouldn't see the point in trading pin's by separating Little and Houlden ..


Exactly.

Unless one or both coaches thought Little vs Houlden was a toss-up. Then swapping pins would make more sense than a close loss, which of course would have decided this dual.

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Originally Posted By: sportsfan02
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Yes I wouldn't see the point in trading pin's by separating Little and Houlden ..


Exactly.

Unless one or both coaches thought Little vs Houlden was a toss-up. Then swapping pins would make more sense than a close loss, which of course would have decided this dual.


Becker would have beaten Mitchell in my opinion. Even if Little lost a decision, it would have been a toss up. I think the main reason for Little going 140 was to get another weigh-in at that lower weight to give him the choice of weights at Regionals.


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that was some toss out of bounds. Almost on the score table.


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