Insults? Really? Seriously? The "lily-livered panty waist snot nose" referred to would be people like me. . .and maybe if I had included these other descriptors: over-educated idiot who has no common sense and who is in favor of the "pussification of America" and who sucks at the teat of, and is a dreg on, our economy/society/American Way - - -think that covers it- - - it would have been more clear to who I was referring. So, I hope you see now Eddie that the "insults" were not directed at you.

But more importantly, aren't you kind of comparing apples to oranges? Kids wrestling has no concerns about academic eligibility, missed class time, credits or graduation. If that is the model you aspire to in your desire to separate EDUCATION from ATHLETICS then you are, in fact, talking about the European Model of Club Teams. . . (they could be called Kids Wrestling Clubs. . .oh, wait. . .)

But first, define "competing at a national level." By most definitions and as has been posted on this board, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, Kansas on a PER-CAPITA BASIS (we have a very small population base from which to draw) IS competitive at the National Level. But it seems some will not be satisfied until EVERY GOLD MEDAL IN THE NCAA D1 TOURNAMENT & OLYMPICS ARE WON BY WRESTLERS FROM KANSAS. Those who do have the gumption to point out with pride the many accomplishments of Kansas wrestlers are accused of being apologists and not having high enough standards.

You know, when I first joined this board almost eight years ago, there were quite a few high school wrestlers who posted here. We hardly see that anymore. Wonder if it has anything to do with their reading how Kansas wrestling doesn't measure up, they don't care enough, don't work hard enough, aren't serious about their sport because they don't wrestle twelve months per year and travel to the ends fo the earth to do it. . .

Some of on this Board need to reevaluate and realize there is more going on than HS wrestling. And I am one of them. Going to take a break from this insanity until State Wrestling when once again the big discussion will be how many college scholarships are lost because we don't have the State Tournament in one place. . .or is it because our kid's don't/can't/won't wrestle in the rest of the west (or is it the beast with yeast?), or whatever. . . Hope the rest of the season goes good for you and yours. Peace/Out.