Chief, I do not believe Contrarian's post was hateful. Yes, it was mocking of some in particular, but it did not offend me (and I consider myself a Christian, maybe not a good one) and it was very scarcastic and the last line was funny. And, Headup, if we had a radical dictator who would get shot would depend upon the beliefs of the dictator, it might not be rassler. Point is, this is a noble idea, and very worthwhile. My son will participate, because hs has no free will. I pay the bills and I say so. But, it would be nice if it was done as some on here have suggested. In a corner so those who have free will do not feel any peer presure to participate. And, I miss the Church on the Mat that Furches use to do at Sunday tourneys. It makes me feel less guilty. But, shouldn't I really be in Church. Interesting questions for us to answer as individuals.