Sorry Chief, but not even being close to the same. In GE the school designated the place and time. On the mat before the wrestling is not being designated by the host school, the tournament manager, or by KSHSAA. Being set up by a few kids---and I think under the direction of their parents. Are you not a preacher/pastor--you at least said you hosted a radio bible study show. I think someone in the Van Linder family is/or was a preacher.