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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: BLT] #187889 03/29/11 02:04 AM
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He may only be good for a period though!!! We'll work his tail off the next couple of weeks to try to get him in some kind of wrestling shape.

Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: doug747] #187984 03/29/11 08:53 PM
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dacota motter will not be able to wrestle he broke his thumb at state

Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: sis120] #188021 03/30/11 03:26 PM
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Please remember to put your USA card number on the sign up form. I must have this to give to Fred Franklin, the event coordinator.

We are working on finalizing the teams and hope to have that complete by Thursday.


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If it is not too late, Tate Steele is interested in going at 70 lbs. He is a fifth grader.

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Not too late


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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188152 03/31/11 01:19 PM
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I still need two 140 lbers.


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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188155 03/31/11 02:03 PM
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The following is what we have for the teams thru 95 lbs.. I am waiting to here from a couple kids in the 105, 112, and 130 weights. I still need 2 140 lbers.

In order;

50 Kale McCracken, Dallas Koelzer, Jordan Zimmerman, Ian DeMoss
55 Cagan Wallace, Michael Spangler, Kael Pappan
60 Jace Koelzer, Alec Segarra, Braden Lynn, Alec McCuan
65 Boo Dryden, Tanner Hitchcock, Cody Phippen, Drake Taysom, Holden Butler
70 Dylan Gowin, Tate Steele,Jonny Trowbridge, Gunner Rairden, Riley Alderman, Gunnar Murray
75 Zach Eck, Devin Onwugbufor, Lane Glover, Hunter Williams
80 Dalton Dultmeier, Anthony Scantlin, Allen Moraboto,Brocke Budke, Tristan Porsch
85 Zach Garza, Nick Lucas, Christopher Ball?
90 Jalin Harper, Chance Rodriquez, Hayden Friend, Nicholas Jouret
95 Jonathan Ball, Mason Wallace, Caleb Wunsch



As you can see, most of the weights are loaded with studs. I hope to have the rest of the weights completed by tomorrow.

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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188156 03/31/11 02:13 PM
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Please explain how these were chosen? I thought you were only taking 3 teams and there are more then 3 on this list?

Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: sweetpeas mom] #188157 03/31/11 02:17 PM
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This is a lot of money if you are just an alternate? Do alternates get the clothing and things like the others. How does this work?

Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: sweetpeas mom] #188158 03/31/11 01:22 PM
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There are only 3 teams. The additional wrestlers have the chance to go as alternates - with a limit of 2 per team for a total of 6 alternates. The alternates get the same singlet, shorts and t-shirt as everyone else.

Teams were selected by input from 11 or 12 coaches.


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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188160 03/31/11 02:54 PM
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Will the alternates do any wrestling or are they just going to watch?

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Hope this is not coming across rude! Just want to get a clear picture on some things! Thanks

Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: sweetpeas mom] #188166 03/31/11 03:11 PM
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Alternates have the option to wrestle on the alternate teams - which is what I recomend because you are assured of more matches - or the alternates can opt to stay with their team and hope that there are alternate kids on the opposing teams that are near their weight.

Last year there were 2 teams made up of alternates from all the states. They are planning on at least 2 alternate teams again this year.

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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188169 03/31/11 03:33 PM
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Ok thank you so much for all the information.

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Sorry to keep bothering you but what day do we leave? I need to let teachers know if we leave friday!

Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188185 03/31/11 05:07 PM
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not to start an arguement but how does jailn harper get on the first team over chance rodriguez? im just curious how this decision was made considering how their season ended up. just wondering. thanks

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This was one of the tough decisions the coaches had to make, but we felt 12 88 bracket was tougher than the 10 90.


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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: daleck] #188189 03/31/11 05:21 PM
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We leave Friday April 8th at atound noon from Lawrence. I will be posting more info next week.


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Re: 2011 Heartland Elementary National Duals [Re: sweetpeas mom] #188195 03/31/11 05:07 PM
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It would be helpful if you would post the minutes from your meeting when you decided the placement of these boys. We would like to know who the coaches are that were at this meeting. It seems that there were weight changes on these boys that were not posted on your "multiple posts in no particular order". I want you and your team of pickers to make us understand why you choose seedings in the order that you did. The 65 to 80#lb picks appear to be manipulated with weight changes and placement of boys that are clearly not seeded correctly. Why is the Onwugbufor moved to a diffrent weight. We also want to know where Trowbridge has wrestled any of these 70lb# this year. Please state where and when these matches took place for I have not found one. A little clarity would be greatly appreciated. It would be nice in previous years that you hold your meeting on a weekend so other coaches can attend that are not over a hundred miles away on a work week or via camra on internet so that all boys can be measured and judged equally. I don't think that should be a problem seeings your results were not posted until today. I know Trackwrestling is not a accurate measure of boys. There are several large tournaments not on track and I have looked at them to. And have yet to find evidence or reasoning of your choices. One last thing is this your private team or is this a sanctioned USA KANSAS team because I am also baffled who the true judge and jury is on the selection process. But if you kindly post those meeting minutes and the coaches that attended I'm sure things will become clear as a bell. Thank you for your time and I hope to have a speedy reply to the questions set forth. Thank you

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Sounds to me like you would be an excellent candidate to step up and take over the Elementary Dual teams for next year. It amazes how someone who goes out of their way, spends a ton of extra time trying to get dual teams put together to represent the state of Kansas receives nothing but criticism. Just like a High School dual, you move wrestlers around to make the strongest team possible!

March 25, 2011 08:51 AM ----- We will be having a meeting Tuesday March 29th at 6:30 pm at my office to get started picking the teams. Any coaches that would like to have some input are welcome. The address is 9915 W 21st N - Wichita, KS 67205


It also sounds to me like you should read the posts, maybe then you or your coaches could have made arrangements to be at the meeting! Most people were or are still wrestling on the weekends, and spend Sundays with their families, therefore Tuesday sounded just as good as any. I know on here it also asked to send in any and all information you may have about your child or children that may be interested in wrestling. This was an attempt to make meeting a little easier, but you can't please everyone!!

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