little jimmy has all day to drop the weight just like johnny, is there more hours in the day in d4 than there is in d1, THEY BOTH HAVE UNTIL 8 ACLOCK THAT NITE!!

now if d4 would have extended ther weigh ins until 3am saturday morning then i could see that d4 gave the kids an extra 7 hours to make the weight as it is every kid in d1, d2, d3 and d4 had the same amount of time to lose the weight. WHERE DID D4 KIDS GET ALL THIS EXTRA TIME TO LOOSE THE WEIGHT?

let's do a simple math problem here we go.

little jimmy from d4 has until 8 aclock to weigh in and make weight, little johnny from d1 has untill 8 aclock to weigh in and make weight, how many more hour's did jimmy have over johnny to make weight??? a.2 b.4 c.6 d.they both have the same amount of time.

and lets not complain and say it's not fair that d4 has better math teachers either.

i have looked everywhere for the rule that states all districts must weigh in the same time, is there a rule stating this. if so can someone point me in the right direction to read it. thanks

i asked my 9 and 10 year old if life is fair and they both said no. but i do remember when they was 4 and 5 how they always said it aint fair, it aint fair.

my understanding of the rules is you are not allowed to weigh in more than 24 hours before you wrestle richard or randy can you clarify if that is right.

i notice that district 1,3,4 posted the pin time on trackwrestling but d2 did not. this is another good example of d2 doing what they want, and everyone else is powerless to do anything about it. (sound familiar)

nothing against you guys in d2 that ran the tounament and i am not complaining either. i think you know why i made this silly statement

Everyone has the same amout of time to lose weight, but if we could have weighed in at 1:00 pm, then we could of actually had lunch and several more hours to pack in carbohydrates and protein in preparation for the next days events.It is an advantage in that respect.

there's 24 hours in a day, you can't stretch it, you can't shorten it.

Exactly! Reread my post.

ok i get what your saying there is so much weight and water being sucked off of some of these kids that they need the extra 5 hours to replinish, guess it makes sense

really tyson? here's the problem with your theory. all d4 wrestlers had the same weigh in time, right? since no d1,d2,d3 wrestlers are competing in d4 it doesn't matter who got to rehydrate more. name one wrestler in d1 that used the d4 weigh in times to gain and advantage over you.

friday night weigh ins are a good thing for this sport. let's not get sucked in by that green grass. there are no excuses in wrestling, i don't understand why some people can't figure that out.

very good point headup, i did not think of that, that would be right d4 weigh ins only affected d4 would not have an advantage over d1 d2 or d3 so what would it realy matter to you guys what d4 did it did not affect you guys one bit. nice point headup

i wonder why someone would complain about what another district did as long as it was in the rules and did not affect any of there wrestlers in there district.

headup you are 100% correct even if d4 would have weigh ins from 11 am til 5am the next morning it would not affect any of the other districts at all.

hossus how did d4 weigh ins affect d2 and tyson how did our kids in d4 have an advantage over your kids.

now if it was state where everyone is wrestling everyone i might see your point but really how did d4 weigh ins affect you guys at all

Exactly headup the state tournament is next weekend. I was a little puzzled by the weigh in time my self, but it worked just fine. I traveled 3 hours to get Pratt and it was nice not to stand in line. Not everybody trying to get in the eating place at the same time and checking into motels. (not alot of options in Pratt). It was the same for all d4. We have been traveling to Topeka for years leaving first thing to get there for a 3:00 weigh in, not much complaining we just do it.

As I said before, I didn't think it was a bad idea. I just said it wasn't fair to the other Districts who followed the 6-8 weigh-ins. Tyson touched on a small part of that.

My kids are on Spring Break as were many others across the state. I wasn't worried about his weight at all. It would have been nice to drop in around 1:30 weigh in and go home. Here is the bonuses to that.

Plenty of parking. We got there early and the lots were already filling up before 6 PM.

Smaller lines. Dist 2 was basically herded through like cattle in large groups. We got there before 6 still took about an hour and 10 min to get through. Can't speak for Dist 1-3 but imagine it was about the same. This would have been especially beneficial to people who lived locally to get in early and be out of the way before the not so local showed up.

Home at a decent hour. We didn't get home till 9:30 PM, if we could have went at say 1:30 PM. We could have been home by 4 or 5 PM easy. I can't imagine what parents who were having to deal with weight issues then trying to feed their kids at 8:30-9:00PM and trying to get them home and in bed for a long day on Sat would have been thinking.

I also suspect that starting earlier would have been a lot easier on the host club. Instead of trying to rush through 600+ wrestlers in 2 hours they would have had 7 hours to do the job. This in turn would have made scratches, bracket changes, and other details a lot more managable for Sat. Likely would have been less stressfull as well. But I am just going out on a limb on this, since three other Districts managed to do this from 6-8 PM.

Prob other reasons that I can't think of on this issue. But only Dist 4 had these advantages. Everyone else followed the standard 6-8 PM weigh-ins as a unified body.

the other districts could have done the same thing for there district if they wanted they had that choice.

Nix,

In case you missed this in another thread.

I probably shouldn't be posting right now, as I only got about three hours of sleep last night....

Pratt and District IV didn't do anything wrong or unethical. Originally I wanted to cut off weigh-ins at 7 friday night because we were hosting a Senior Dual. I had put quite a bit of time into this, and really wanted to go watch it. Only after several D4 clubs expressed their concerns about the 7oclock cut off, I had an email forwarded to me Sunday March 13th that was originally sent to executive board members Monday February 14th. My flyer had already been posted for a week. Here is what the e-mail said regarding weigh-in times......(((((Sub District and District weigh in on Friday night will be 6-8. Sat 6-7. Remember the board indicated we need to be flexible!))))) Note...the board indicated we need to be F L E X I B L E.........Isn't starting at 1 being flexible? Isn't changing the cut-off time Friday night from 7-8 being flexible? No where in this e-mail does it say that weigh-ins are mandatory Friday 6-8, and Saturday 6-7.

All this whining about D4 kids having more time to weigh in is ignorant to say the least. Every kid in every district had until 8 to make weight. Actually, my flyer reads 1-7 which would have given the other three districts an extra hour to make weight. Hossus, would you have complained about that.... I highly doubt it????

I guess I don't understand why some of you are so upset. Would you have rather weighed in at 1 as well....one would assume! None of the D4 kids had an unfair advantage over your kids this weekend. If getting to eat earlier than your kid is your motiviation for stirring the pot, then start another thread complaining about the State Weigh-ins. I still don't know how they are going to work, but it sounds like some kids get to weigh in earlier than others......just sayin!!!!

Would someone from the Executive board shed some light on this please? Were any of the other tournament directors told that weigh-ins were manditory 6-8 friday, 6-7 saturday? If an e-mail was sent to me, I didn't get it. If a letter was mailed, I didn't get it. If it was posted on this site, I didn't read it. I've been a little consumed with Track Wrestling, and getting ready for the tournament. I haven't been paying much attention to the talk forum.

God Bless and Good Night!!!!!
Greg Pelland

hossus it says in accordance with our bylaws, is there a bylaw stating what time weigh ins may start.

like i said does the bylaws state you cannot weigh in ore than 24 hours before the start of wrestling the next day or somthing like that

Nix,


I don't have a clue if there is or not. But it does seem odd that 3 other districts weighed in from 6-8. But the message I get from this statement is unified operations across the state.

Hossus...I'm not trying to be a Tool. If I came across that way I'm sorry. If I'm understanding you correctly, what's made you mad is the B.S. you had to go through to get your boy weighed in Friday night. No parking, long wait, didn't get home til late. on and on and on.... Rather than hate on Pratt and D4, try and make a positive change. If you keep complaining about Pratt not following the rules, maybe the State will change the by-laws and we'll all be mandated to Weigh in at those inconvenient hours, rather than having the flexability of making it more convenient for all............just a thought.

regardless, of how either one of us take the statement, or if there is or is not a bylaw it did not affect any other districts at all, no one gained an advantage either way.

hossus i i am just having a little fun with this no hard feeling's