1.Please send me the link where I was making "Horrendous comments about a Physically challenged kid"? I have asked you several times to do so you have yet to do it. I told a story that happened to me while attending a Camp in ARK CITY. I did in no way shape or form insult the kid, I simply typed a memory of Ark City, THAT REALLY HAPPENED TO ME. IT REALLY HAPPENED IT IS THE TRUTH, I AM SORRY IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

2. I have came up with ways to improve KANSAS wrestling JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT LIKE THEM DOES NOT MEAN I AM NOT TRYING!,
a. combine 5a 6a so you get better QUALITY WRESTLERS IN THE STATE TOURNAMENT
b.SINCE YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT IDEA I also mentioned doing 2 regional's and having an 8 man bracket keeping 5a and 6a separate tournys.

3. I am not bashing kids by putting there name on a list, I simply took there name and record from the State Tourny Bracket and compiled a list. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at the state for putting there records on the bracket. I never once said anything bad about those kids on that list. Again you cannot handle the truth! those kids really do have losing records! Did I ever say they were BAD WRESTLERS?.... NO I DID NOT!!!!!

4. I have admitted to being on that list my self my soph year in high school I was 1-30 for 5a Salina Central 5 man at regionals if i win i go to state with a 2-29 record, did you not read that?

5. I have never asked for anyone to respect me, I could care less what you think about me XGHSWC, I could care less what James Stout and Curtis Ryan thinks about me. I know where I stand with people back home, Im not worried a bit.

6. I do not care what people from other states think either not really sure why you do?

7. Call Bill Christner, see what he thinks of me. Call Steve Wedel Call Tom Taplin, Call Robert Zey, call Deb Lytle Call Dave Robinson You think because James Stout was being politically correct people in my Home town have denounced me? You have no idea what you are talking about, James was covering his ass.

8. How am I selfish? Who have I bashed? You are so easily offended by the truth. So, if a kid loses a match can you not talk about it on the form? That might hurt his feelings right, If a kid has a losing record it is not mentionable, that might hurt his feelings too? If I tell a TRUE story about 4 other heavy weights not wanting to catch a disease by wrestling with a kid that came into practice smelling like pee for the 3rd day in a row. Does that make me mean? Am I bashing that kid, or am I just telling a true story?

9. I make a motion that you be banned for not following the forum rules.

Straight from MR Salyer himself

Quote:
Board Rules
This is a free forum, created for the purpose of promoting Kansas wrestling, and those who wrestle, through the exchange of thoughts and suggestions, and for the recognition of the accomplishments of those involved in our sport. There are just two basic rules that are necessary to keep in mind. First, remember that this is a family oriented forum, and is regularly viewed by young wrestlers. Second, "cheap shots" will not be tolerated. If you are going to post a message critical of an individual, group or idea, you must give your true name and/or email address. Be willing to stand behind your comments, or keep them to yourself.


You will find I signed my name, as always. My target on the other hand, while taking a "cheap shot" did not have the integrity or courage to sign his name.



A few text I get from Beeson, daily now,

"people from Abilene told me that your father had a one nighter with a stripper or a whore and oops here you were"

"speaking of parents...was your mom a stripper or a whore...I cant remember... and why is your last name different than your dads?"

He then went on to bash my father for nevering wining a 3a state title." wow looking to see how good ole coach Lamar is.... not really impressed he couldnt win a 3a title...disappointing Im sure...thats why you never bash 123a....lmfao" "couldnt even place higher than 4th and your talking $%^& on everyone else?

"and the Best Coach in the state still has more state Championships than your beloved daddy whose last name he wouldnt give you"

"Abilene had two good years.... that doesnt make you a wrestling Dynasty...Just makes you a two hit wonder team...It Happens...try winning 19 out of 40 years."

"im starting to see where this is really coming from...Wayne Jackson and Ark City hogging all of the state championships...hurt feelings cuz your daddy wasnt a good coach?"

"who did your dad coach for in High School...and did he ever win a team Championship?"

"did he win so many your having trouble counting them all...or youR ashamed?"

XGHSWC You get upset with me for speaking the truth about 5a wrestling, while for two years now I have had to put up Beeson and his crap behind the forum.

X bottom line 5a wrestling had 45 kids with losing records, 31 of witch went 0-2 giving up TEAM POINTS THAT HELPS TEAMS WIN STATE TOURNYS. SO IMO AND ONLY MY OPINION A 1234A TEAM TITLE MEANS MORE BECAUSE THEIR ARE NOT 45 KIDS IN IT WITH LOSING RECORDS, OF WHICH 41 OF THE 45 LOST THEIR FIRST MATCH 3 OF THEM BEAT ANOTHER KID WITH A LOSING RECORD AND ONE OF THEM HAD A BYE. 31 OF THE 45 WENT 0-2, 10 KIDS WON THERE SECOND ROUND MATCHS BEATING ANOTHER KID WITH A LOSING RECORDED. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT 3 OF THE 45 WENT 2-2 OR BETTER I THINK ONE OF THE KIDS WON 3 MATCHES.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ EXCEPT FOR MY OPINION UP THERE THOSE ARE FACTS, I AM SORRY IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THOSE FACTS, IM SORRY IF YOU THINK I AM BASHING A KID BY STATING FACTS, YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE THOSE FACTS, BECAUSE IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN NEXT YEAR FACT I WILL POST THE SAME THING.

SEE YA NEXT YEAR!!!!!

Originally Posted By: XGHSWC
Originally Posted By: L.Geyer
I think the only way to end this argument is to convince more kids to go out for wrestling to fill all the spots on the teams.


Wrong, the only way to end this argument is to ban Lucas from the forum.
He should have been banned last year when he made the horrendous comments about a physically challenged kid and all the other asinine derogatory comments he has made over the last two years.

This forum is for the betterment of Kansas wrestling. Lucas is not interested in bettering Kansas wrestling. He just want to get on the forum and rant. If he were truly interested in making Kansas wrestling better, he would go through the appropriate channels and discuss his issues with the appropriate people. No, he gets on the forum and bashes classes and towns that OUR Kansas kids wrestle for. Does he not understand that when he bashes a class or town, he is bashing OUR kids, their families and their programs and communities? He even bashes OUR kids with losing records. Does he not know that those same kids that he declares are not worthy and their parents read the forum? Does he not care about how insulting he is and how he is insulting them? Apparently not. And if that is the case, then that only justifies my suggestion even more that he be banned.

This whole thing is ridiculous and I can't believe that we let it go on. Lucas wants people to listen to and consider his points but he doesn't listen to or consider others points. He wants people to respect him and his opinion but he doesn't respect other people and their opinions. Lucas is a terrible reflection on Kansas wrestling. He is making us all look bad. He has already been pretty much denounced by Abilene and that should say enough right there. What does he think that people from other states think when they read about this stuff? Does he even care? Apparently not. And if he doesn't care about Kansas wrestling to the point that he is embarrasing with no regard, then that only justifies my suggestion even more that he be banned.

So I make a motion that Lucas be banned from the forum until he can prove that he can follow the guidelines and be a positive reflection on Kansas wrestling and try to be mature and professional and do things the right way instead of saying terrible things about others to advance his point. He is clearly being a selfish person that just needs attention.