Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:12 AM
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Eric i will tell you this if i was part of this crew and this misstake was made it would have gotten corrected. I would have made the phone calls myself. You can ask anyone that knows me i have the vegetables to admit and fix what i screw up. I will not talk behind no ones back because i will be the first one to tell it to your face. I post my phone number on all my posts to back my words. Just check around and you will find this the TRUTH.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:18 AM
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Butch, I believe it came down to the fact that Cash and Brad had not wrestled this season. There was no criteria outside of my rankings. Last year's criteria was not used. Also, I know of at least two other guys from Eastern Kansas that got overlooked. They do not wish to have their name in this discussion.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:24 AM
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Eric i will not mention any names after the A$$ eating i got on slandering a kid on this topic already. BUT 4X state champion not the top kid for the spot. I dont see how you cant agree it is rigged this is your facts talking now. Criteria is being followed? Ya Right!
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:29 AM
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The bottom line is that it was NOT intentional. I believe these guys have the highest integrity. Your claim of "rigging" is way off base and slanderous.
Is it true that there was no current season criteria to put Cash above Brad?
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:30 AM
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No that is not right either, but how many of the east Kansas kids were asked and declined? Because if Purcell and Hood were not asked the selection committee needs revamped.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:37 AM
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AMEN WhatS right is right look at the facts. FACTS dont lie. Trackwrestling.com Eric look back at the posts there was plenty of time to fix this problem. All it takes is a phone call, pretty easy fix. Facts dont lie
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:40 AM
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Was there current season criteria to pick Cash ahead of Brad? That's the third time I have asked that. If the answer is no, then you owe these guys an apology!
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:46 AM
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Eric, I agree facts are facts so therefore Brad has no criteria over Cash as well so how are these picked. And for one of the selection committee to make the comment that they have never heard of Cash, maybe it is time to re visit who IS on this committee. JMO
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:50 AM
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The decision might have come down to something as simple as the Lawrence coach turning in a bio sheet for Brad and the Hays coach not turning one in!
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:52 AM
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Eric i personally talked to three of them 10 days prior to this event. They were told that they made a mistake and it would be proved at kids state and it was. They were all told that when it was proved that i would make my point very clear and i was assured that they had the right wrestler picked. Facts dont lie. Was anything done to corret the mistake? I dont think so, I never recieved a phone call about it. I will not appologize. I was told the reason Cash was not picked was because they never heard of him or myself before. That is a lie and you know it. I dont understand why you are trying to cover up there mistake?
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:56 AM
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And you making the comment on current criteria for this year doesn't make since to me, as this is how you say you rank your AC but yet you say cash doesn't have criteria but you have him ranked 3rd AC and Brad not ranked.
So what is this saying about your ranking criteria?
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:59 AM
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I'm not trying to cover anything. If there was no bio sheet turned in for Cash, the committee would have had to have current season criteria to invite Cash unsolicited. With a lack of criteria, they went with the person who did ask to wrestle. When you contacted them after the selection, you had no criteria for them to change the selection! Sure, they should have heard of Cash before. But the facts are that there was no criteria to call Brad and tell him that he was out.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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Eric i dont think you have followed all the previous posts on this topic. The facts that im talking about does include the letter that coach Hafliger sent to them about cash. Evidently that letter you are talking about doesnot have any criteria because they still said that they never heard of cash before.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 03:15 AM
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Eric they addmitted having cashes bio sheet that included winning 5 tournaments this year. It was dicussed that they did not have an opinion on which tournaments were tougher than the other ones. Wich i agreed. But then i said i have not found where the BEST kid has near that criteria. Cash has a better record than the BEST kid. Has beaten common opponents this season. They had this information before the selection. But they still had never heard of cash or myself.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 03:22 AM
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Eric you of all people use head to head, comon opponents, and im sure alot of other things also. The President of this event posted the criteria for this event on this forum. He was called out that the criteria was not followed correctly. A panel that selects outstanding seniors for an event like this needs to do there home work before making mistakes like this. The facts are on the internet and you know where they are and they do also.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 02:01 PM
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Let me start by saying, I do not know Cash, Butch or any of the people directly involved in this apparent oversight. I wounder reading through all of this...Who wanted to wrestle in the event more? Cash or Butch? It is over! Obviously it has not been a major effect for your son as i assume he is in the finals of kids state the way you are going on. I promise you this 1 event will not (at least i hope not) affect the remainder of his life! Good luck to Cash post High School. Butch....let it go.
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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Lets just take the highest placing seniors at 113-285 from each division and have 3 duals:
3a vs. 6a 4a vs 5a
3a vs. 4a 5a vs 6a
3a vs 5a 4a vs 6a
Enlighten Me!
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/25/12 11:02 PM
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Let me start by saying, I do not know Cash, Butch or any of the people directly involved in this apparent oversight. I wounder reading through all of this...Who wanted to wrestle in the event more? Cash or Butch? It is over! Obviously it has not been a major effect for your son as i assume he is in the finals of kids state the way you are going on. I promise you this 1 event will not (at least i hope not) affect the remainder of his life! Good luck to Cash post High School. Butch....let it go. Thank you
Hey Butt-Head what did people do before they invented TV? Don't be stupid Beavis there's always been TV, there's just more channels now. Oh yeah, heh heh hehe... progress is cool. Heh hehe heh
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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03/26/12 11:21 AM
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I don't have a horse in this race . . .but I can see Butch's point. And, I think it is OK to push it.
It might be your kid (or loved one) that is screwed out of going to an event such as this next year (and all the following years to come).
If the matter is settled openly and honestly, then, most likely this most unfortunate incident will not occur again...
So, in a sense, he is not only arguing for his kid, but for all the future kids that are eligible and would like to compete in an event such as this.
It appears to me that his points are valid and that nobody has came out and said something to the effect of, "Gee Butch. You are right. I see the validity of your points. We are so sorry that we made the mistake we did. Our deepest apologies. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Now we have extra insights not to allow an incident like this to happen again in the future. Yes, we are fallible humans. But any info that others can contribute to make the selection process more fair - is good info. Thanks again Butch. And, again, our apologies."
Something wrong with that? Anybody got some humility that says something to that effect to Butch?
I imagine Butch is fully aware that nothing can be done about the snafu that occurred to his son this year. But again, maybe his bringing up the thread/argument/discussion in the first place - could help your kid, or one of your loved ones, in the future.
I appreciate your frankness, courage and logic in shining your light on this Butch.
Take care.
D. Dean Welsh, Junction City ***Dean plays well with others!!! ;-)
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Re: Senior Classic Is Definately Rigged
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i only have four questions.
will someone from the selection committee please apologize to cash drylie already?
will butch drylie please accept the apology?
will butch drylie and l geyer please step up to help fix this prblem, something beyond complaints?
can we get someone from western ks on more state committees?
"with attitude, will, and some spirit"
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