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Re: Transfers? [Re: ReDPloyd] #207863 08/18/12 11:58 AM
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Khamin Crow - Topeka Seaman
Tyler Dickman - STA
Jake Elbrader - STA
Hunter Furnish - Andale
Mike Kenny - Olathe North
Lucas Maki - Andover
Chance Maynard - Dodge City
Skylar Olson - Rossville

One more point. Eight of the eight on this list wrestled for other high school programs. Heck, one of these wrestlers started at the high school he is going back to wrestle for this year. Wish them the best and leave it at that.


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Re: Transfers? [Re: ReDPloyd] #207868 08/18/12 06:13 PM
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DUH...of course they wrestled for other high schools. They moved into another school district. That is why they are wrestling for a different school. That's not the case for University of STA transfers. They were recruited by coaches and others close to the program. Of course you would like to leave it alone......there is no defense to what The University of STA does.

Re: Transfers? [Re: Peanut1234] #207869 08/18/12 06:26 PM
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I heard Michael Olson is going to Tongy this year. Any truth to this rumor?

Re: Transfers? [Re: effwhyeye] #207870 08/18/12 07:34 PM
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DUH...........really? Did you say DUH? How about you tell us who got so heavily recruited that they ditched out on their high school team, coaches, and teammates? We all know that there is a the chance that private schools can recruit. You know what, it more than likely happens in public schools too. Change your address, whether you actually live there or not, and bingo, you are wrestling for another program.

You did get me on one thing though; eight of eight wrestling for another high school program. This is the transfer thread, so they more than likely switched programs.

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Re: Transfers? [Re: ReDPloyd] #207872 08/18/12 08:09 PM
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You will never get me to name any KID by name on this form page. This is not a kid issue.

This is an adult issue.....Coaches and Parents

The issue is the state of Kansas has not and never will address the issue of kansas private schools that recruit top notch atheletes. Unethical coaches will always do whatever it takes to win. recruiting atheletes from another school is unethical.

Re: Transfers? [Re: Peanut1234] #207873 08/18/12 08:40 PM
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Curious, whats the carrot the unethical coach offers the recruited athlete to transfer?


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Chance to be part of a state champion team, education, wrestle with yours buddies you workout with in the summer, better facilities........all the same things a College Coach might offer.

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And public schools don't do this? Well, other then the better education part. All the things peanut listed are reasons that my son would want to transfer. Chance to win a state championship, get to wrestle with your buddies and better facility. We almost moved this summer for these very things but there was no recruiting by school employees though. Recruiting, I believe happens alot more from alumni then school employees. At least that has been my experience.


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Re: Transfers? [Re: PatrickCavanaugh] #207876 08/18/12 10:26 PM
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PC, your are correct. There have been many times I am sure that some families relocated (real or otherwise) to give their kid a chance to be on a better team. The only difference from the private schools, you don't have to relocate (real or otherwise).


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Re: Transfers? [Re: ReDPloyd] #207878 08/18/12 11:44 PM
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So there u have it. If your a public school coach and want to recruit u have to convince a kids parents to either move into your district or convince them to lie about their address.
To recruit at a private school you only have to convince the parents to drive or let the kid drive a few extra miles......

I have no problem with parents wanting what they think is best for their kid. By all means..open it up so any kid can go where ever they want......that's never going to happen. My intent of my post was just to point out once again a private school has taken full advantage of their ability to welcome any student that wants to come. Be ing able to recruit a state runner-up is a huge advantage. Unfortunately coach Keal will have to hope one moves into his school district. He can't just go get one. Maybe next time the STA coach will develop,train and coach up is own kids.

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Re: Transfers? [Re: ReDPloyd] #207880 08/18/12 11:46 PM
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What about the kid, that i won't name, that left a championship contender, one of the best academic schools, the school built a brand new gym and bought 2 new wrestling mats (facility). And has lived in the public school district he transfered to for 4 years while still attending the private school. But decides to transfer senior year????

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Originally Posted By: KSwrestler103
What about the kid, that i won't name, that left a championship contender, one of the best academic schools, the school built a brand new gym and bought 2 new wrestling mats (facility). And has lived in the public school district he transfered to for 4 years while still attending the private school. But decides to transfer senior year????

none of my business.


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If it was a case that the public school coach recruited him, it's no different and that coach is unethical as well.

Re: Transfers? [Re: PatrickCavanaugh] #207883 08/19/12 12:07 AM
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Lee and Peanut, i can only speak for shawnee county, but here if you want your child to go to a school where you are not in the district, you request the transfer and go to the school board meeting to explain why you want to go to said school. Flattery has been known to work well when using this technique. I see what you are saying with private school, the checkbook instead of actually writing a letter and showing up to the school board meeting to plead your case. I am in a tax bracket where I've had to do the latter. That and Hayden sucks at wrestling!


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Spencer Wilson - From LFS to Topeka Seaman.


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Re: Transfers? [Re: effwhyeye] #207888 08/19/12 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: effwhyeye
I heard Michael Olson is going to Tongy this year. Any truth to this rumor?


No truth to that. He is still at Lansing.


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Re: Transfers? [Re: Chief Renegade] #207893 08/19/12 10:51 AM
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Reported Transfers and new school:

Khamin Crow - Topeka Seaman
Tyler Dickman - STA
Jake Elbrader - STA
Hunter Furnish - Andale
Mike Kenny - Olathe North
Lucas Maki - Andover
Chance Maynard - Dodge City
Skylar Olson - Rossville
Spencer Wilson - Topeka Seaman


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Re: Transfers? [Re: PatrickCavanaugh] #207902 08/19/12 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: PatrickCavanaugh
That and Hayden sucks at wrestling!

Ouch! Sometimes the truth hurts, and this is one of those times. I never could figure out how a football school couldn't put a decent wrestling team on the mat (happened many years here at LHS). Now the wrestling team's accomplishments blow away anything the football team has done for years. Go figure.


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Re: Transfers? [Re: Peanut1234] #207920 08/20/12 01:04 PM
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Let me back up Peanuts claim about private schools having a recruiting advantage. I have written proof because I got an actual recruiting letter just the other day.

I have a junior that some schools would consider a somewhat desirable recruit to their academic and athletic programs. A starting QB as a freshman, 2 time state placer - state runner up in wrestling, a key part of the state placing baseball team the last two years, and first chair tuba in the band.

This letter has several items listed but only covers about half of the total package the school will "give" my student for attending. This was just a list to get him in the front door. I've been told many more of these things will be "given" if he sticks around.

The items are too great to list them all here so I'll sum it all up with a few short words.

Total amount due - $ 7272.00 smile

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Originally Posted By: D.W.
Let me back up Peanuts claim about private schools having a recruiting advantage. I have written proof because I got an actual recruiting letter just the other day.

I have a junior that some schools would consider a somewhat desirable recruit to their academic and athletic programs. A starting QB as a freshman, 2 time state placer - state runner up in wrestling, a key part of the state placing baseball team the last two years, and first chair tuba in the band.

This letter has several items listed but only covers about half of the total package the school will "give" my student for attending. This was just a list to get him in the front door. I've been told many more of these things will be "given" if he sticks around.

The items are too great to list them all here so I'll sum it all up with a few short words.

Total amount due - $ 7272.00 smile


I'm sure that same letter was sent out to many others who did not see it as recruiting. I would hope any school that was recruiting someone would not be stupid enough to put things in writing. There is a difference between a school selling itself and recruiting. If you were getting called by school officials/coaches I would say you have a case.

I don't see how paying a small fortune to go to a private school is a recruiting advantage. If anything a private school is behind the 8-ball from the get go. There is a little more too it than driving a few extra miles.

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