Re: Classification Changes??
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Re: Classification Changes??
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Jay, don't take the bait. WillyM or Contrarian as he was formerly called, has tried to do this in many areas. A few years ago he was the expert on all things Lansing, now it's Leavenworth. It's not worth your time.
You are doing great things at Leavenworth. Keep it up!!
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/05/12 04:36 PM
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I have no bone to pick. I lived in Leavenworth City for 11 years prior to moving to Lansing 19 years ago. My middle son graduated from Leavenworth HS in 1986. Have watched a lot of LHS sports over the years. You have to be blind and deaf to not recognise that they are not competitive with those bigger Sunflower League schools. For 30 years I have heard the arguement--excuses- about the turnover of their athletes because of their military connection and family transfers. I did not make up that set of facts. Give the student athletes a break, especially FBers (I think LHS has had more head FB coaches in the last 30 years than wins)(Coach Hogan and BB is the only consistent winning LHS team--and they do play good BB)). Either this year or in the near future LHS will be forced down to 5A. They are aleady scheduling games/events with 5A and 4A schools. Slotting in another conference will give some habitual LHS losing teams a chance to feel the success of winning.
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/05/12 06:22 PM
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Predictions...
4A: Andover Central Goddard Goodland
5A: McPherson St. James Academy
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/05/12 08:41 PM
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Does anybody know McPherson enrollment this year?
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/05/12 10:45 PM
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I will predict Bonner Springs to 5A I guess. FYI . . . Wishful thinking might be influencing my predictions. Lol!!
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/05/12 11:52 PM
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It is anticipated that Kansas' overall enrollment will be slightly greater this year than last. Last year's enrollment, as recorded by KSHSAA 141,405.
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/06/12 12:59 PM
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In the event that the 32nd 5A or 6A school is tied in enrollment, what is the criteria for splitting them up?
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/06/12 02:43 PM
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In the event that the 32nd 5A or 6A school is tied in enrollment, what is the criteria for splitting them up? Tie breaker is previous year's enrollment.
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Re: Classification Changes??
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Anyone know where they can find The Kansas Equitable Classification Plan. Would like to read the details and procedures of the complete plan--and the how and why it was developed. The extract on the Sept Agenda is just an outline. Implementation of such a plan with so many societal variables will surely cause some major school classification changes. May expect bigger inner city schools to move down, more affluent smaller schools (and possibly private and parochial schools)to move up.
Wonder if they will keep the 32-32-64-etc etc splits? Might be a good time to consider changing the scheme of splits---at least for the three largest classes (changing the 32-32-64 has been argued, cussed and discussed on this forum since day one).
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/06/12 04:31 PM
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http://kshsaa.org/Public/PDF/PrivatePublicStudy.pdfSchools with a current enrollment of 690-740 are in the mix for 4A or 5A. Without knowing the exact number for about 10 schools there is almost no way to know which classification these "cusp" schools will be in this year.
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Re: Classification Changes??
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The student enrollment count for KSHSAA is taken 0n 20 Sept---2 more weeks. Classifcations will probably be announced that weekend---maybe not until monday the 24th.
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Re: Classification Changes??
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The student enrollment count for KSHSAA is taken 0n 20 Sept---2 more weeks. Classifcations will probably be announced that weekend---maybe not until monday the 24th. Classifications will be announced on September 27th according to the KSHSAA Calendar.
Will Cokeley (708)267-6615 willcokeley@gmail.com
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Re: Classification Changes??
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SCHOOL 2012 2013
Topeka-Highland Park 753 ??? Andover Central 747 730 Goddard-Eisenhower 740 900 (estimated by Goddard source) SM-Bishop Miege 740 ??? Winfield 720 ???
4A Cut off 2012
Pittsburg 717 730 Bonner Springs 709 710 Maize South 697 ??? Lenexa-St. James Academy 689 730 McPherson 683 ??? De Soto 679 700 Goddard 903 680 (As reported by Tommy Boy)
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Re: Classification Changes??
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If SJA is 5A, that class will be a dogfight. Even if AC and GD go 4A.
Ark City Newton SJA STA Seaman
Add some of these teams...PT, AC, GD, MV, EMP, HAY, KMC!
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Re: Classification Changes??
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09/13/12 01:32 PM
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If SJA and Andover Central is 4a, that will be interesting
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Re: Classification Changes??
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If SJA and Andover Central is 4a, that will be interesting 4A 120 gets interesting if SJA, AC, GD and AN are there! As it stands now, 5A 120 may be the toughest weight.
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Re: Classification Changes??
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Sounds like Goodland will be a Class 4A School with around 280 students (unofficially). Haven & Holcomb will be on the edge from what it sounds like. Any updates lately?
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Re: Classification Changes??
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Based on the latest rumor numbers being tossed around after yesterday's reporting I predict:
DeSoto, Bonner Springs & Pittsburg - 4A for sure
Goddard, Bishop Miege, Andover Central & Maize South - 5A for sure
It looks like the 4A cutoff is going to be in the 725 - 735 area. I don't know all of the schools. It does amaze me that the schools had to report their enrollment yesterday and it takes a week to sort them?? Maybe in 1980 but surely not in 2012.
Will Cokeley (708)267-6615 willcokeley@gmail.com
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Re: Classification Changes??
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