2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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PRE-SEASON RANKINGS!
Wrestlers are ranked by their ANTICIPATED weights. As with any ranking system they are just my opinion, arrived at through MANY hours of research.
Many factors are considered (Not always in this order):
1. State bracket performance. 2. Performance at national folkstyle tournaments. 3. National FS/GR success. 4. Information from Coaches and Parents. 5. Competition that the wrestler has faced.
IMPORTANT:
The input must include criteria! Asking, "Why is this guy above that guy" or saying, "I can't believe you have that guy ranked" is not criteria. Just state your evidence and if found substantive, I will change it. Also remember that we are still many weeks away from the first whistle so a lot can change and surely will.
Instead of changing the rankings AS new information comes in, I plan to update them each Friday until the season starts.
TEAM RANKINGS:
1. Arkansas City - 5A 2. St. James Academy - 5A 3. St. Thomas Aquinas - 5A 4. Newton - 5A 5. Garden City - 6A 6. Lawrence - 6A 7. Andover Central - 5A 8. Junction City - 6A 9. Colby - 4A 10. Topeka Seaman - 5A
106: 1. Logan Terrill ARK - 10 - 5A 2. Jake Goldenstein AUG 10 - 4A 3. Stephen Tujague SJA 9 - 5A 4. Christian Bowen GD 9 - 5A 5. Josiah Seaton BS 11 - 4A 6. Landon Wood MZ 9 - 6A 7. Khamin Crow SEA 10 - 5A 8. Michael Prieto GC 9 - 6A 9. Chance Maynard DC 11 - 6A 10. Levi Kester PT 11 - 4A
113: 1. Sean DeShazer WH - 10 - 6A 2. Michael Lindlar WNW 12 - 6A 3. Joey DeFore ARK 11 - 5A 4. Trey Francka CCO 12 - 321A 5. Parker Howell KMC 11 - 5A 6. Kevin Perez JC 12 - 6A 7. Jase Stone MH 12 - 6A 8. Zane Baugh AB 10 - 4A 9. Jeff Morrow DB 12 - 6A 10. Tristan Star LAW 10 - 6A
120: 1. Zac Gentzler AC - 12 - 5A 2. Tyler Mies AN 11 - 4A 3. Dakota Leach GD 12 - 5A 4. Reese Cokeley SJA 11 - 5A 5. Quinton Harrison NEW 12 - 5A 6. Hunter Price HOL 12 - 4A 7. Jake Elbrader STA 11 - 5A 8. PJ Cheney TUR 11 - 5A 9. Brett Moon MZ 9 - 6A 10. Armond McCray WH 10 - 6A
126: 1. Dustin Reed CLB - 12 - 4A 2. Chris Burley GB 12 - 5A 3. Zak Hensley SJA 10 - 5A 4. Brandon Ball HOI 11 - 321A 5. Luke Henes STA 11 - 5A 6. John Risewick NOR 12 - 321A 7. Nick Haug ON 10 - 6A 8. Lucas Maki AND 12 - 5A 9. Tevin Briscoe GC 10 - 6A 10. Corey Spader SPH 12 - 4A
132: 1. Michael Olsen LS - 11 - 5A 2. Hunter Haralson LAW 12 - 6A 3. Tyler Dickman STA 11 - 5A 4. Kyle Wilson WAM 12 - 4A 5. Anthony Monares NEW 12 - 5A 6. Trevor Kennedy GC 12 - 6A 7. Blake Stovall ON 9 - 6A 8. Jake Wilson RH 11 - 4A 9. Sawyer Like BVSW 11 - 5A 10. Chipper Jorns SME 12 - 6A
138: 1. Isaac Dulgarian STA - 10 - 5A 2. Bryce Shoemaker BAL 12 - 4A 3. Cody Eastman ARK 12 - 5A 4. Reis Humphrey SMS 12 - 5A 5. Dane Edwards DC 12 - 6A 6. AJ Hurtado GC 12 - 6A 7. Garrett McEachern NEW 12 - 5A 8. Greg Burley GB 11 - 5A 9. Jacob Durossette FS 11 - 4A 10. Jared Suppes DB 12 - 6A
145: 1. Brogan Humphrey FRE - 11 - 321A 2. Andrew Millsap JC 11 - 6A 3. Austin Hughey ELD 12 - 4A 4. Taylor Watkins COL 10 - 4A 5. Victor Hughes FS 12 - 4A 6. Tanner Ogden RV 12 - 4A 7. Lawson Fiss HUG 12 - 4A 8. Jake Gehring BUH 12 - 4A 9. Jared Fiscus CH 12 - 4A 10. Michael Helms ARK 12 - 5A
152: 1. Jonathan Blackwell BS - 12 - 4A 2. Tagen Lambotte ROS 11 - 321A 3. Wyatt Villers ARK 12 - 5A 4. Scott Whitson BUH 11 - 4A 5. Dylan Jackson EMP 12 - 5A 6. Patrick Weaver HUG 12 - 4A 7. Matt Pratt SJA 10 - 5A 8. Chandler Ayer DB 12 - 6A 9. Kalin Collins WS 11 - 6A 10. Derek Frost CFK - 12 - 4A
160: 1. Dustin Williams GE 11 - 6A 2. Gavin Grater RC - 11 - 321A 3. Calvin Ochs HOX 12 - 321A 4. Kyle Armstrong AN 12 - 4A 5. Noel Torres EMP 12 - 5A 6. Aaron Puckett BS 12 - 4A 7. Ben Becker DB 12 - 6A 8. Andrew Denning - LAW - 12 - 6A 9. Quade Woofter CLB 12 - 4A 10. Nick Wuthnow SAC 11 - 321A
170: 1. Jared Johnson PR - 12 - 321A 2. Bryant Guillen SEA 12 - 5A 3. Trent Salsbury SJA 11 - 5A 4. Johnny Perz STA 12 - 5A 5. Jared Langley NEW 10 - 5A 6. Blake Hampton SPH 11 - 4A 7. Anthony Gardner GC 12 - 6A 8. Trevor Whittaker SV 12 - 4A 9. Kolby Fennewald MUL 12 - 4A 10. Jordan Dillard SMW - 12 - 6A
182: 1. Levi Eck AN - 12 - 4A 2. Nick Meck SH 12 - 5A 3. Ben Ewing STA 10 - 5A 4. Kyler Atwood SC 12 - 321A 5. Armando Sandoval ULY 12 - 4A 6. Luke Weldon VC 12 - 5A 7. Brandon Salmans HOX 12 - 321A 8. Levi Huneke SAB 12 - 321A 9. Andy Muehlberger - SJA - 12 - 5A 10. Rasheed Brady SMS 11 - 5A
195: 1. Preston Weigel HAY - 11 - 5A 2. Dillon Archer NEW 12 - 5A 3. Chad Blair VC 12 - 5A 4. Dalton Rodd AC 12 - 5A 5. Tanner ODonnell SS 12 - 5A 6. Skyler Hittle CON 11 - 4A 7. Gavin Houser COL 12 - 4A 8. Austin Tillman TOP 11 - 6A 9. TJ Martin BVSW 12 - 5A 10. Nate Stanley SEA 12 - 5A
220: 1. Justin Scott JW - 11 - 4A 2. Tyson Toelkes - SH - 11 - 5A 3. Jesse Colver LV 12 - 5A 4. Caleb Franklin WN 11 - 6A 5. Ray Gallegos NEW 11 - 5A 6. Dylan Cox ARK 12 - 5A 7. Ramiro Gatica SMW 12 - 6A 8. Jordan Drybread CH 12 - 4A 9. Ryker Greenbaum DOU 12 - 321A 10. Michael McEachern SC 12 - 321A
285: 1. Will Geary TOP - 12 - 6A 2. Nathan Butler LV 12 - 5A 3. Clay Wilcox CHP 12 - 321A 4. Dylan Hall SEA 12 - 5A 5. Garret Lee NEW 12 - 5A 6. Nadir Zayyad BVW 12 - 6A 7. Don Fowler BVNW 12 - 6A 8. Aaron Rafalko JC 12 - 6A 9. Zell Bieberle CLB 12 - 4A 10. Shannon Meck SH - 12 - 5A
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Re: 2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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09/28/12 12:32 PM
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Thanks for posting Chief.
126 looks stacked this year if they all stay at that weight.
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5A/120, 6A 113 and 5A 126 are really loaded.
Overall breakdown:
6A - 35 5A - 53 4A - 37 321A - 15
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Re: 2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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What about 4A 145? 7 of 10!
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Re: 2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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Wow - If Shawnee Mission South had not dropped to 5A, they would have had two top ranked wrestlers in 6A.
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Wow - If Shawnee Mission South had not dropped to 5A, they would have had two top ranked wrestlers in 6A. True!
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Re: 2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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Noticed Spencer Wilson was not ranked. Is he wrestling this year?
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Noticed Spencer Wilson was not ranked. Is he wrestling this year? Dont know, he hasnt been cleared by the docs.
Did you see that Eckenbacherswartzendruber?
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Re: 2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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Bummer - always enjoy watching him compete
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Re: 2012-13 ALL-CLASS RANKINGS!
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132 lbs. 1-Michael Olsen LS - 11 - 5A, 2-Hunter Haralson LAW 12 - 6A, 3-Tyler Dickman STA 11 - 5A.
Can't get much tougher in weight in any class. Olsen and Haralson might get back at each other in the Leavenworth Challanger. Think Haralson won last year.
Don't know about 285 lb #1 Will GearyTOP-12-6A and #2 Nathan Butler-LV12-5A. Shame they won't meet at State.
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120: 1. Zac Gentzler AC - 12 - 5A 2. Tyler Mies AN 11 - 4A 3. Dakota Leach GD 12 - 5A 4. Reese Cokeley SJA 11 - 5A 5. Quinton Harrison NEW 12 - 5A 6. Hunter Price HOL 12 - 4A 7. Jake Elbrader STA 11 - 5A 8. PJ Cheney TUR 11 - 5A 9. Brett Moon MZ 9 - 6A 10. Armond McCray WH 10 - 6A
I might be bias but it looks like, to me, that 5A 120 is one bad a$$ weight class. 6 of the top 10 from 5A? A 3xer and two returning state champs. Multiple state placers. Should be an interesting season.
Will Cokeley (708)267-6615 willcokeley@gmail.com
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Welcome to STA Tyler Dickman. First week of the season he has both Haralson and Olsen. STA, Lawrence and Lansing are all in the LV Challenger tournament.
I love my man Olsen and think he wins it. I also gotta agree with Cokeley (as much as I hate too...) 5a 120 is nasty!
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285 - Will Geary over Nathan Butler 4-3 @ Rocky Mountain Nationals 03/18/2012 285 - Nathan Butler(K) dec over Will Geary 4-0, 1-1 @ Wrestling Central Freestyle Duals 05/19/2012
Both 2012 high school 6A state champions Butler @220 and Geary @ 285. Butler 2012 ASICS FILA freestyle National Champion @ 275 2012 ASICS FILA Greco National Runner-up @ 275. 2012 ASICS/USAW Folkstyle Nationals 3rd place @ 285
So a 1 point victory in folkstyle supersedes not only a pretty impressive freestyle victory but also all of Butler's National accomplishments? Is Butlers #2 ranking simply because he was 220 last year and Geary was 285? Seems to me that Butler has had more National success and has faced better competition. Using the 5 factors you listed at the top of this thread, 1. is a tie 2,3,5 go to Butler.
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Gee whiz, it looks like we have a lot of work to do. Looks like a lot of exciting matchups to come! I can't wait!
Tate Thompson Head Wrestling Coach Pratt High School
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285 - Will Geary over Nathan Butler 4-3 @ Rocky Mountain Nationals 03/18/2012 285 - Nathan Butler(K) dec over Will Geary 4-0, 1-1 @ Wrestling Central Freestyle Duals 05/19/2012
Both 2012 high school 6A state champions Butler @220 and Geary @ 285. Butler 2012 ASICS FILA freestyle National Champion @ 275 2012 ASICS FILA Greco National Runner-up @ 275. 2012 ASICS/USAW Folkstyle Nationals 3rd place @ 285
So a 1 point victory in folkstyle supersedes not only a pretty impressive freestyle victory but also all of Butler's National accomplishments? Is Butlers #2 ranking simply because he was 220 last year and Geary was 285? Seems to me that Butler has had more National success and has faced better competition. Using the 5 factors you listed at the top of this thread, 1. is a tie 2,3,5 go to Butler. I love to watch both of these guys wrestle. I hear what you are saying but I must point out a few things. Nathan's National accomplishments are in the international styles and they were in the FILA Cadet age division which excludes many juniors and nearly all seniors. Will has very little, next to none, experience in the international styles. These rankings are for FOLKSTYLE and they are VERY different, especially for the big guys because of the push out rule. And yes, Nathan bumped up. I think these guys are VERY, VERY even but I too would have to give the ever so slight edge to Geary at this time.
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Welcome to STA Tyler Dickman. First week of the season he has both Haralson and Olsen. STA, Lawrence and Lansing are all in the LV Challenger tournament.
I love my man Olsen and think he wins it. I also gotta agree with Cokeley (as much as I hate too...) 5a 120 is nasty! Dickman won't be eligible the first week of the season, I don't believe.
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Be careful to. Olsen is out for blood this year, and hopefully will bump up and meet with Dulgarian in a few of these tournaments, so maybe we won't see as many Olsen to Haralson to Dickman meetings this year. However, I don't think anyone will complain about an Olsen Dulgarian showdown. Sounds about as explosive as a Will Geary Nathan Butler state final..... However, props to Chief. I couldn't have ranked this year in any way shape or form, but I think these are some legit rankings, setting up a sweet year for Kansas wrestling. Don't forget about that college scene either 
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2. Performance at national folkstyle tournaments. 3. National FS/GR success. From the original post on this thread
Nathan's 3rd place finish WAS at a folkstyle tournament, 2012 ASICS/USAW Jr/Cadet Folkstyle Natls, which includes both Jrs/cadets. So this alone should give him the nod. Look at the competition Junior - 285 1st Place - Adam Coon of WOW 2nd Place - Cole Johnson of De Soto Wrestling 3rd Place - Nathan Butler of Leavenworth County Spartans 4th Place - Jeremy Brazil of ISI 5th Place - Riley Delzer of Oconto Falls 6th Place - Nathan Jackson of Tuttle High School 7th Place - Donte Winfield of Perry Meridian 8th Place - Collin Jensen of South Dakota If you want to say these are folkstyle rankings then FS/GR should not be factored in at all. Are these rankings for the best FOLKSTYLE wrestlers in the state or the best WRESTLERS in the state? Like I said if this is all about folkstyle than summer wrestling shouldn't be considered, Because Nathan is clearly the BEST ALL AROUND 285 wrestler in the state.
Again Nathan wins 3 of the 5 so called factors used to determine the rankings out right. But of course you are going to side with Chief, it's what everyone on this forum expects.
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powercat1,
We are still just over two months from the start of the season. I think that it is great that someone devotes their time to compiling these rankings for all of us to debate. I have seen both Butler and Geary wrestle high school and they have different wrestling styles. Geary looks like a beast and wrestles like one. Butler is probably one of the best high school (big men) wrestlers I have seen from the technical standpoint. Butler is well respected by those who have seen him wrestle as is Geary. I don't know either one of them personally, I can only speak from what I have seen on the mat.
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Powercat,
You misunderstand the rankings.
I don't give the nod to the highest number of the criteria points that I stated. They are weighted. Many times the National FS/GR results break ties.
The two most influential points that determined my rankings with these two elite athletes were:
1. In the only Folkstyle match that they have ever wrestled each other, Geary won. 2. Geary is the defending 285 State Champion. Butler is the defending 220 State Champion.
I know both of these wrestlers very well and I am jumping up and down in their corner. We have two of the finest HWT's in the country. I was really bummed that they were split in the classes and that due to changes in the schedules, that they will not meet at the SM North tournament.
To be clear, had they never wrestled each other in Folkstyle, I would have ranked Nathan #1. Understand also that the Oak Park FS Duals were the first FS matches in Will Geary's life.
I sure hope they both plan to join my teams in Denver again in March 2013!
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