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I do not question seamen moving up after their recent performance this only adds to what could be the best team title chase in years.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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But isn't Seaman 5A(ranked 4th). To me it would Appear that Seaman should win 5A. Show us the math? Seaman 177.5 SJA 168.5 STA 153.0 The "Math" shows Topeka Seaman as 5A Champs, followed by SJA. I would assume that STA or Ark City would be sucking hind teat in 3rd Place. At least by the Math that is how it should be. I assumed that I would be explaining the 5A rankings but not to you Chad... The Bobcat Classic featured 36 teams of which 6 were in Class 5A. The 5A rankings are based on a tournament with 32 5A teams only. In the latest 5A ranking update SJA had 9 placers and 5 finalists. Seaman has 4 placers and 2 finalists. ARK has 8 placers and 4 finalists. Each of these teams have unranked guys that will also score. The Thunder has both Feists. ARK has Dietrich, Biddle, Nuckles and Pink. Those two teams are within 5 points of each other! Chad, do you now see the math? Just Don't see it, but I never have been able to make sense of the Rankings. I would have thought that SJA's 9 placers and 5 finalist would have still scored easily more than Seaman's 4 placers and 2 finalists. 9 is greater than 4 and 5 is greater than 2, but the team points didn't show that. Seaman's less than scored more than SJA's greater than. Simple math. I agree Newton and Ark City are both under ranked, and by more than 5 points.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Just Don't see it, but I never have been able to make sense of the Rankings. I would have thought that SJA's 9 placers and 5 finalist would have still scored easily more than Seaman's 4 placers and 2 finalists. 9 is greater than 4 and 5 is greater than 2, but the team points didn't show that. Seaman's less than scored more than SJA's greater than. Simple math. I agree Newton and Ark City are both under ranked, and by more than 5 points.
Wow. OK let's go to chapter two of the lesson. Contrasting the Bobcat v 5A State: SJA:106 - Tujague got 1st and is ranked 1st in 5A - At 5A state, no change. 113 - T. Hensley got 4th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are not there! Hensley gets 2nd. 120 - Cokeley got 6th, losing to one 5A guy and two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are magically gone! Reese gets 4th. 126 - Z. Hensley got 2nd, losing to a MO kid - At 5A state that MO kid is gone! Hensley still gets 2nd. 138 - A. Tujague got 6th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are in Salina! Tujague gets 3rd. 145 - VanLerberg DNP, losing to a 6A guy and a MO guy - At 5A state the 6A guy is in another bracket and the MO guy cannot be found! VanLerberg gets 6th. 152 - Pratt got 6th, losing to two 4A guys and a MO guy - At 5A state he searches the bracket and cannot find those three guys! Pratt gets 2nd. 170 - Salsbury got 3rd, losing to OK guy - At 5A state he texts the OK guy and wishes him luck at OK state. Salsbury gets 2nd. 182 - Muehlberger got 7th, losing to 1 5A guy and a 4A guy - At 5A state he loses to two 5A guys and still places! Andy gets 6th. SeamanBest wishes to Seaman at state this year. It's awesome how coach Kelly has it going there. Please understand that this lesson is intended exclusively to Mr. Beeson. 106 - J. Gay got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket! Jaelynn DNP. 113 - Crow got 5th - At 5A state he is delighted that his bracket is easier! Khamin gets 3rd. 138 - D. Gay got 8th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket and he looks at his brother and says dang! Daemeion DNP. 170 - Guillen got 1st - At 5A state he is also a machine. Bryant gets 1st. 182 - Wilson got 4th - At 5A state he could place anywhere from 1st through 4th. After all he is Spencer Wilson. 195 - Kelly got 2nd - At 5A state he has two state champions in his bracket that have a chance to be drawn on the opposite side of the bracket. Bailey gets 3rd. 220 - Stanley got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers appear in his bracket! Although he sure has a fighting chance to place, he is currently not ranked. 285 - Hall got 5th - At 5A state he places 3rd and wears his medal to bed that night. (Just humoring you Dylan) In conclusion:At 5A state SJA has seven wrestlers place higher than they did at the Bobcat DUE TO the fact that their brackets only include 5A wrestlers. Seaman has two wrestlers improve and five wrestlers place lower. Chad, please be ready for the test on Friday.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
[Re: Chief Renegade]
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That is not simple math, a little too complex for a simple Ark Citian. Not worried about the test on Friday. Looking forward to the one at the end of February. The Math gets ALOT more simple then, just have to look at the final numbers.:)
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Hey X man, look at all of those comments in Chief's analysis saying "loses to 4a kid" , "got beat by 4 a kid".........
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Agree with Beeson if only it was that simple there would be no reason to wrestle the state tournament. Only numbers in febuary count too many things can happen including upsets which are fairly common at the state tournament no matter what class 5A 4A 6A 321A. People have fun with speculation which is fine but simple math doesn't win you matches or championships.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Just Don't see it, but I never have been able to make sense of the Rankings. I would have thought that SJA's 9 placers and 5 finalist would have still scored easily more than Seaman's 4 placers and 2 finalists. 9 is greater than 4 and 5 is greater than 2, but the team points didn't show that. Seaman's less than scored more than SJA's greater than. Simple math. I agree Newton and Ark City are both under ranked, and by more than 5 points.
Wow. OK let's go to chapter two of the lesson. Contrasting the Bobcat v 5A State: SJA:106 - Tujague got 1st and is ranked 1st in 5A - At 5A state, no change. 113 - T. Hensley got 4th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are not there! Hensley gets 2nd. 120 - Cokeley got 6th, losing to one 5A guy and two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are magically gone! Reese gets 4th. 126 - Z. Hensley got 2nd, losing to a MO kid - At 5A state that MO kid is gone! Hensley still gets 2nd. 138 - A. Tujague got 6th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are in Salina! Tujague gets 3rd. 145 - VanLerberg DNP, losing to a 6A guy and a MO guy - At 5A state the 6A guy is in another bracket and the MO guy cannot be found! VanLerberg gets 6th. 152 - Pratt got 6th, losing to two 4A guys and a MO guy - At 5A state he searches the bracket and cannot find those three guys! Pratt gets 2nd. 170 - Salsbury got 3rd, losing to OK guy - At 5A state he texts the OK guy and wishes him luck at OK state. Salsbury gets 2nd. 182 - Muehlberger got 7th, losing to 1 5A guy and a 4A guy - At 5A state he loses to two 5A guys and still places! Andy gets 6th. SeamanBest wishes to Seaman at state this year. It's awesome how coach Kelly has it going there. Please understand that this lesson is intended exclusively to Mr. Beeson. 106 - J. Gay got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket! Jaelynn DNP. 113 - Crow got 5th - At 5A state he is delighted that his bracket is easier! Khamin gets 3rd. 138 - D. Gay got 8th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket and he looks at his brother and says dang! Daemeion DNP. 170 - Guillen got 1st - At 5A state he is also a machine. Bryant gets 1st. 182 - Wilson got 4th - At 5A state he could place anywhere from 1st through 4th. After all he is Spencer Wilson. 195 - Kelly got 2nd - At 5A state he has two state champions in his bracket that have a chance to be drawn on the opposite side of the bracket. Bailey gets 3rd. 220 - Stanley got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers appear in his bracket! Although he sure has a fighting chance to place, he is currently not ranked. 285 - Hall got 5th - At 5A state he places 3rd and wears his medal to bed that night. (Just humoring you Dylan) In conclusion:At 5A state SJA has seven wrestlers place higher than they did at the Bobcat DUE TO the fact that their brackets only include 5A wrestlers. Seaman has two wrestlers improve and five wrestlers place lower. Chad, please be ready for the test on Friday. I do have one more question. All of these 4A guys and Missouri Wrestlers that were there. Was St. James the only wrestlers that had to face them or did the Seaman guys have the same wrestlers? If they both had to face the 4A Monsters and Missouri Studs, Seaman still did better against the same competition. Logic tells me they are the better team, even though last week they didn't even break the top ten in the "All Class Rankings".
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Just Don't see it, but I never have been able to make sense of the Rankings. I would have thought that SJA's 9 placers and 5 finalist would have still scored easily more than Seaman's 4 placers and 2 finalists. 9 is greater than 4 and 5 is greater than 2, but the team points didn't show that. Seaman's less than scored more than SJA's greater than. Simple math. I agree Newton and Ark City are both under ranked, and by more than 5 points. Wow. OK let's go to chapter two of the lesson. Contrasting the Bobcat v 5A State: SJA:106 - Tujague got 1st and is ranked 1st in 5A - At 5A state, no change. 113 - T. Hensley got 4th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are not there! Hensley gets 2nd. 120 - Cokeley got 6th, losing to one 5A guy and two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are magically gone! Reese gets 4th. 126 - Z. Hensley got 2nd, losing to a MO kid - At 5A state that MO kid is gone! Hensley still gets 2nd. 138 - A. Tujague got 6th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are in Salina! Tujague gets 3rd. 145 - VanLerberg DNP, losing to a 6A guy and a MO guy - At 5A state the 6A guy is in another bracket and the MO guy cannot be found! VanLerberg gets 6th. 152 - Pratt got 6th, losing to two 4A guys and a MO guy - At 5A state he searches the bracket and cannot find those three guys! Pratt gets 2nd. 170 - Salsbury got 3rd, losing to OK guy - At 5A state he texts the OK guy and wishes him luck at OK state. Salsbury gets 2nd. 182 - Muehlberger got 7th, losing to 1 5A guy and a 4A guy - At 5A state he loses to two 5A guys and still places! Andy gets 6th. SeamanBest wishes to Seaman at state this year. It's awesome how coach Kelly has it going there. Please understand that this lesson is intended exclusively to Mr. Beeson. 106 - J. Gay got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket! Jaelynn DNP. 113 - Crow got 5th - At 5A state he is delighted that his bracket is easier! Khamin gets 3rd. 138 - D. Gay got 8th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket and he looks at his brother and says dang! Daemeion DNP. 170 - Guillen got 1st - At 5A state he is also a machine. Bryant gets 1st. 182 - Wilson got 4th - At 5A state he could place anywhere from 1st through 4th. After all he is Spencer Wilson. 195 - Kelly got 2nd - At 5A state he has two state champions in his bracket that have a chance to be drawn on the opposite side of the bracket. Bailey gets 3rd. 220 - Stanley got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers appear in his bracket! Although he sure has a fighting chance to place, he is currently not ranked. 285 - Hall got 5th - At 5A state he places 3rd and wears his medal to bed that night. (Just humoring you Dylan) In conclusion:At 5A state SJA has seven wrestlers place higher than they did at the Bobcat DUE TO the fact that their brackets only include 5A wrestlers. Seaman has two wrestlers improve and five wrestlers place lower. Chad, please be ready for the test on Friday. I do have one more question. Did the Seaman guys have the same wrestlers? No!
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Just Don't see it, but I never have been able to make sense of the Rankings. I would have thought that SJA's 9 placers and 5 finalist would have still scored easily more than Seaman's 4 placers and 2 finalists. 9 is greater than 4 and 5 is greater than 2, but the team points didn't show that. Seaman's less than scored more than SJA's greater than. Simple math. I agree Newton and Ark City are both under ranked, and by more than 5 points.
Wow. OK let's go to chapter two of the lesson. Contrasting the Bobcat v 5A State: SJA:106 - Tujague got 1st and is ranked 1st in 5A - At 5A state, no change. 113 - T. Hensley got 4th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are not there! Hensley gets 2nd. 120 - Cokeley got 6th, losing to one 5A guy and two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are magically gone! Reese gets 4th. 126 - Z. Hensley got 2nd, losing to a MO kid - At 5A state that MO kid is gone! Hensley still gets 2nd. 138 - A. Tujague got 6th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are in Salina! Tujague gets 3rd. 145 - VanLerberg DNP, losing to a 6A guy and a MO guy - At 5A state the 6A guy is in another bracket and the MO guy cannot be found! VanLerberg gets 6th. 152 - Pratt got 6th, losing to two 4A guys and a MO guy - At 5A state he searches the bracket and cannot find those three guys! Pratt gets 2nd. 170 - Salsbury got 3rd, losing to OK guy - At 5A state he texts the OK guy and wishes him luck at OK state. Salsbury gets 2nd. 182 - Muehlberger got 7th, losing to 1 5A guy and a 4A guy - At 5A state he loses to two 5A guys and still places! Andy gets 6th. SeamanBest wishes to Seaman at state this year. It's awesome how coach Kelly has it going there. Please understand that this lesson is intended exclusively to Mr. Beeson. 106 - J. Gay got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket! Jaelynn DNP. 113 - Crow got 5th - At 5A state he is delighted that his bracket is easier! Khamin gets 3rd. 138 - D. Gay got 8th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket and he looks at his brother and says dang! Daemeion DNP. 170 - Guillen got 1st - At 5A state he is also a machine. Bryant gets 1st. 182 - Wilson got 4th - At 5A state he could place anywhere from 1st through 4th. After all he is Spencer Wilson. 195 - Kelly got 2nd - At 5A state he has two state champions in his bracket that have a chance to be drawn on the opposite side of the bracket. Bailey gets 3rd. 220 - Stanley got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers appear in his bracket! Although he sure has a fighting chance to place, he is currently not ranked. 285 - Hall got 5th - At 5A state he places 3rd and wears his medal to bed that night. (Just humoring you Dylan) In conclusion:At 5A state SJA has seven wrestlers place higher than they did at the Bobcat DUE TO the fact that their brackets only include 5A wrestlers. Seaman has two wrestlers improve and five wrestlers place lower. Chad, please be ready for the test on Friday. I do have one more question. All of these 4A guys and Missouri Wrestlers that were there. Was St. James the only wrestlers that had to face them or did the Seaman guys have the same wrestlers? If they both had to face the 4A Monsters and Missouri Studs, Seaman still did better against the same competition. Logic tells me they are the better team, even though last week they didn't even break the top ten in the "All Class Rankings". Chad, Seriously? You have to understand that you are trying to make a team comparision from an INDIVIDUAL tournament. Seaman didn't face SJA as a team. The wrestlers all faced VERY DIFFERENT competition than they will see in the 5A regional and state series. Some guys who wrestled at the Bobcat may not even make it to state so they will not be able to score a single point at state. This is the reason that crowning a team champs at an individual tournament can skew who might REALLY have the best team.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Trying to predict the outcome of 5a team results is like trying to predict the NCAA BB tournament. this is one man's opinion people. To many factors are unknown. injury, not making weight, illness, how does a freshman react to wrestling in front of 2500 people, regional bracket match-ups...etc. It's yet to be seen how SJA or any of the mentioned will handles these factors. Can't wait.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Chief Renegade,
"182 - Muehlberger got 7th, losing to 1 5A guy and a 4A guy - At 5A state he loses to two 5A guys and still places! Andy gets 6th."
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but it's been a lot of talk about math on this forum and I'm pretty sure in order to take 6th place Muehlberger would have to lose to three 5A guys, not two. See, I have your back Chief.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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If you go by which class the person they lost to is from, at 113 for ark city defore doesn't have the best record but has only lost to 4 kansas wrestlers. All being 6a.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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Just Don't see it, but I never have been able to make sense of the Rankings. I would have thought that SJA's 9 placers and 5 finalist would have still scored easily more than Seaman's 4 placers and 2 finalists. 9 is greater than 4 and 5 is greater than 2, but the team points didn't show that. Seaman's less than scored more than SJA's greater than. Simple math. I agree Newton and Ark City are both under ranked, and by more than 5 points. Wow. OK let's go to chapter two of the lesson. Contrasting the Bobcat v 5A State: SJA:106 - Tujague got 1st and is ranked 1st in 5A - At 5A state, no change. 113 - T. Hensley got 4th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are not there! Hensley gets 2nd. 120 - Cokeley got 6th, losing to one 5A guy and two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are magically gone! Reese gets 4th. 126 - Z. Hensley got 2nd, losing to a MO kid - At 5A state that MO kid is gone! Hensley still gets 2nd. 138 - A. Tujague got 6th, losing to two 4A guys - At 5A state those 4A guys are in Salina! Tujague gets 3rd. 145 - VanLerberg DNP, losing to a 6A guy and a MO guy - At 5A state the 6A guy is in another bracket and the MO guy cannot be found! VanLerberg gets 6th. 152 - Pratt got 6th, losing to two 4A guys and a MO guy - At 5A state he searches the bracket and cannot find those three guys! Pratt gets 2nd. 170 - Salsbury got 3rd, losing to OK guy - At 5A state he texts the OK guy and wishes him luck at OK state. Salsbury gets 2nd. 182 - Muehlberger got 7th, losing to 1 5A guy and a 4A guy - At 5A state he loses to two 5A guys and still places! Andy gets 6th. SeamanBest wishes to Seaman at state this year. It's awesome how coach Kelly has it going there. Please understand that this lesson is intended exclusively to Mr. Beeson. 106 - J. Gay got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket! Jaelynn DNP. 113 - Crow got 5th - At 5A state he is delighted that his bracket is easier! Khamin gets 3rd. 138 - D. Gay got 8th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers enter his bracket and he looks at his brother and says dang! Daemeion DNP. 170 - Guillen got 1st - At 5A state he is also a machine. Bryant gets 1st. 182 - Wilson got 4th - At 5A state he could place anywhere from 1st through 4th. After all he is Spencer Wilson. 195 - Kelly got 2nd - At 5A state he has two state champions in his bracket that have a chance to be drawn on the opposite side of the bracket. Bailey gets 3rd. 220 - Stanley got 5th - At 5A state, five new ranked wrestlers appear in his bracket! Although he sure has a fighting chance to place, he is currently not ranked. 285 - Hall got 5th - At 5A state he places 3rd and wears his medal to bed that night. (Just humoring you Dylan) In conclusion:At 5A state SJA has seven wrestlers place higher than they did at the Bobcat DUE TO the fact that their brackets only include 5A wrestlers. Seaman has two wrestlers improve and five wrestlers place lower. Chad, please be ready for the test on Friday. I do have one more question. Did the Seaman guys have the same wrestlers? No! So they had like an "A" bracket and a "B" bracket and all the SJA guys got the tough brackets and all of the Seaman guys got the easy brackets. Then they added up the score from both brackets and came up with a team winner? Is that how it worked? And my quote was taking out of context. The question was something like didn't they have the same wrestlers in their brackets that SJA had also.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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If you go by which class the person they lost to is from, at 113 for ark city defore doesn't have the best record but has only lost to 4 kansas wrestlers. All being 6a. 2 of the 6A losses were to Deshazer and 1 to McDonald which he avenged at Newton. I do not know who the other loss was to.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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So they had like an "A" bracket and a "B" bracket and all the SJA guys got the tough brackets and all of the Seaman guys got the easy brackets. Then they added up the score from both brackets and came up with a team winner? Is that how it worked?
And my quote was taking out of context. The question was something like didn't they have the same wrestlers in their brackets that SJA had also. This is REALLY simple. The 5A state brackets will only include 5A WRESTLERS! When you are looking at the Bobcat results, there are almost 30 other teams from other classes and out of state. Look at my current 5A rankings. Look at the SJA wrestlers and the Seaman wrestlers. Add the points up! If you DISAGREE with the 5A rankings at a particular weight, STATE YOUR CRITERIA! If that criteria is substanitive (Meaning that it has a firm basis in reality), then I will change the ranking! Chad, this is getting embarrassing for you man. I can go to a local junior high and find over 100 students that understand this.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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The more I read this the more I laugh at it. I can see both sides of this. Generally Chief's rankings are fairly accurate, so I have to tend to side with him. But on the other hand it is hard to judge how a team would do if there wasn’t out of state or out of class teams involved, because all the brackets, and the seedings would be different if these other states, and classifications were not in attendance. If wrestler that places 3rd at the bobcat this year very easily may have placed 1st or even DNP if there were not other states or classifications involved, as the brackets would be completely different, and there would be different match ups. Just my 2 cents on this subject, I will continue to sit back and laugh at everyone trying to make sense of this.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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It has actually been decided. Beeson agrees with me and has basically been joking. For a minute there I though we were going to have to revoke his drivers license!
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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I never said I agree with your rankings. I understand a little more than I was letting on and can agree with your reasoning. But I still do not agree with the Rankings, but no one will ever agree 100%.
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Re: 5A Rankings!
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I never said I agree with your rankings. I understand a little more than I was letting on and can agree with your reasoning. But I still do not agree with the Rankings, but no one will ever agree 100%. Do you agree that they are rankings?
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