Ok, I've read all the posts, some good some, not so good. I've been coaching for 8yrs. Now, I have a 13 and 11yr. old. Are they the same NO!! They are just different (styles of wrestling). In my opinion, no matter what age, if you are new to the sport, try novice. If you are whipping everyone week in and week out its time to move on. You may not win very many or any at all in an open, but it gives you something to strive for. Even as good as mine are they still get beat here and there, and still keep working hard and coming back each week to get that win. Remember this people this is a one-on-one sport, your day will come. Medal hunting will get you know where in this sport. Wrestling the best the sport has to offer, will someday make you a champion!!