Just some food for thought. Mr. Zouzas whom I think is a pretty darn good wrestler has won his state championships in the 5A class which we all know is pud compared to 4A. To be perfectly fair some of the matches Jake has had at state weren't awsome wrestlers. However last year none of the guys he wrestled had more than 5 loses except for his first round opponent. However Lukas' opponents went in this order 17 loeses, 12 loses, 8 loses, 12 loses. If you ask me thats not very much competition. To Lukas' credit he did beat Gilliand by 1 point at Beloit, but that could have gone either way. I think the real inssue is if these two are never going to meet, haven't wrestled common opponents why are we sittin here arguing over who will beat who. I never once in this forum said that Jake would beat Lukas, and I certainly didn't say he would "Dominate" him. I simply said to Aaron that it would be foolish to bet against Jake, simply becuase I know it's very difficult to beat him when he is on his game. Everyone else on he is quick to jump to the fact they they know Lukas would beat Jake, I say prove it! Othersise don't use stupid words like dominate. If you going to say anything in this forum it should be phrased, "In my opinion, I think (Blank) would win between the two, for (Blank) reasons" thats far more respectful to both of them. Quite frankly I think the whole subject should be dropped since there is no way of knowing and they probably aren't going to wrestle each other.