daboom I never said I did, but then again how would you know? I can only assume you are not from Abilene or you wouldn't have said something that dumb. No I won't stop posting so your wasting your type now. I'm very proud of Jake I don't know Luke so I can't speak on him. As for freestyle that is a completely different subject. Jake has lost to several other people in freestyle so that has no bearing on a "fantasy" folkstyle match. I was done posting on this subject long ago, and then of course someone had to bring my name up again, oh well.