The outrage is not so much the acts these sick humans (priests) did. With a church this large your bound to attract some sick puppies. The outrage for many including me is the cover up and relocation of these sick puppies to other totally unaware parishes so that pedophiles can continue ruining lives. The outrage is with the bishops arch bishops and cardinals.

Wow, wouldn't be cool if there was a talk forum devoted to wrestling. Still I so enjoy this yearly ritual of my denomination is so much better than yours.
I for one cannot wait for the wrestling to begin and this nonsense to end.

It would be an even better place if religious leaders would stay out of competitive sports to push their personal, religious agendas. It always gets ugly when you start mixing religion, politics and sports. I personally wish this topic would have waited to surface after the state tournament because at this point nothing is going to change. Lets wrestle this weekend and hopefully the right wrestlers will make it to state. Good luck to all. Not only in reaching your goals but in remaining healthy.

I agree these situations should have been handled better. Just as the situation in KC areas needs to be handled different so these wrestlers can compete.

The question was asked earlier if the wrestler has the choice to take the mat or not? Or is it going to pre-decided by the coach? If he does take the mat would he face expulsion from the school?

Bailed and the RAN FOR HIS LIFE!!!

So what happens if these kids say screw it and wrestle anyyway, will they have to say 10 hail mary's as punishment. I would say wrestling a girl is less morally corrupting than being an alter boy, as least the girl wrestling wont get molested.

Although the war in Iraq is over and the war in Afghanistan is winding down, the next war will likely have (more) women serving in combat roles. I hope that the soldiers to her left and right won't quit the fight because of their religious (or other personal) beliefs.

from 2003-2009 the catholic church has had 9 major settlements for sexual abuse of minors involving 375 cases and 1551 victims which resulted in payments of $1.1 Billion. From 2004-2011 8 catholic dioceses have went bankrupt settling sex abuse cases.

I think boys and girls wrestling each other is the least of their problems.

There are enough smart people in this situation to make sure all get to state. Yes there will be some matches that dont get wrestled but the rules can be followed and they all get to state.

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Well, nobody that knows what they are talking about or who has wrestled a little.
That's rich Chief. That's the best comment so far on this thread.
It's funny as a coach when you get a new kid that really hasn't wrestled and they ask, "Coach, when do I play?". Of course we say, "we don't play in wrestling", or "you can play when you go home, we don't play here".

Well, that one's close, but still behind the "we don't play".

I didn't really take it that way L. Geyer and I don't think I would be offended by that or a multitude of other comments that could be made, not even if I was Catholic. Inapropriate things happen in all professions and aspects of life, not just religion. For me it was more about not being able to trust a boy on the mat with a girl. That's what is ridiculous. Yea, don't trust them at home alone maybe, or on a date maybe, but on the mat? Seriously? The whole philosophy is ridiculous with all due respect to Catholics, which I have a lot of Catholic friends because my son wrestled in the Carroll Kids Club. Let them wrestle. I know if I were in a similar situation, my son would be wrestling and I don't believe we would be doing anything wrong. I would hope they wouldn't excommunicate me or something I guess. Now if there is some contract or pact that ones has to accept to go to some Catholic school that says you can't wrestle girls, I just wouldn't go. I can still go to the Catholic Church can't I? Maybe I would have to deconvert. My feeling would be that my son has spent years toiling and sacrificing for this moment, this opportunity, and there aint no way we are missing it now.

I hear what you are saying Jeremy but the dumbest ever? Now that's a stretch. Maybe the dumbest on this thread, but certainly not the forum. We have all seen a lot of ridiculously dumb comments over the years on the forum haven't we. I know I have and I have seen a lot that make this comment pale. Dang, I bet even some of my comments were dumber than this. LOL though.

Here is the short end of the story.

Mill Valley draws into the bottom at 113. STA forfeits first and then SJA in the semis. She will go to state as a regional finalist. Maybe the first girl to make it to state in 5A??

Yes, that would be cool. No, really it's always cool isn't it, but I hear what you are saying.
Surely nobody was trying to say their denomination was better.
Yes, excited about regional and state. I hope that no good boys miss their opportunity because of religion. That would be sad.
And best wishes to Parker. I am anxious to see him able to go at 100% so hope he's there. Sure missed seeing the big matches at league. Parker is always so exciting to watch.

My kid is wrestling for sure. And then we will face the consequences, even if it means expulsion.

Will, I think 2 girls went to state in 5A three years ago. I think one was from Topeka Highland and not sure where the other was from.

XGHSWC.. (not sure where your son goes to school) there will be administrators that will not allow it to happen. Many more jobs will be on the line then just a coach or expulsion of a kid from school. This situation will cause all sorts of feelings. Private schools have rules set in place that our great sport cant change. Only thing is before someone goes to one specifically to compete in a sport they need to be told what could happen. If you know up front this could happen then it is on you. I personally have never believed girls should be wrestling boys at all but unfortunately I have lost that battle as both states I have coached in allowed it to happen. That is the only way this situation doesnt happen. Your not going to change the Catholics view on it. This is a perfect situation that proves it isnt healthy for our sport. Take up the equal sex rights somewhere else in the adult world and keep from hurting the innocents of youth. Is BS but is something that just needs to be thought of as keeping the hurt as little as possible.

So did the the MV wrestler get drawn in to the bottom or was that a case scenerio Mr Cokeley? I was just hoping if she was on top the either STJ or STA would forfeit their first round match assuring both of them getting to state versus one of them being left at home which would be a shame.