Never said questioning leadership is wrong. I expect the people of Ark City to do it every wrestling season. I said your reasoning was wrong. I took issue with the method you used to support your complaint. Seriously, you should stop setting up straw-men, knocking them down, and then claiming victory.

I will sleep well tonight as this thread has worn me out. Don't forget to watch tonight's episode of The Walking Dead. It will prepare you for things to come:=}

Hey what if a girl from STA or SJA wanted to wrestle? Bet a bunch of priest would doo doo wouldn't they?

If the schools do not receive federal funding, they are not required to abide by Title IX, so they do not have to allow girls on their team.

Title IX doesn't mandate that girls get to wrestle.

Did you know that when boys play volleyball, the nets have be raised and they aren't allowed in post season play. Discrimination has no bounds.

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Ok, I'll bite. How was my reasoning wrong? You seem to take issue with everything I say. I haven't claimed victory over any straw-men lately. Do you hang out with Straw-men and Tin-men? Cowardly Lion. You do alot of Roaring with out having the courage to sign your name.

You know the Federal, State and Local governments spend a crap load of money supporting these schools thru infrastruct improvements and maintenace. They may not get direct government funding (they do enjoy tax-exempt status) but, they would not exist without the government spending on roads, etc.

Federal Food program being an example of federal money that I will bet all private schools happily use. I at least know of one that uses it.

In Wichita the City of Wichita does provide maintenance on the streets which lead to both Bishop Carroll Catholic High School and Kapaun Mt. Carmel Catholic High School as well as Wichita Independent, Wichita Trinity, Wichita Collegiate and all the private grade schools. With that said, the City of Wichita maintains these streets not because they provide transportation to these schools but because they provide transportation to every business and every neighborhood to the North, South, East and West of the schools. The parents of the students at these private schools are also taxpayers who are paying for the infrastructure improvement of which you speak as well as the taxes which support your public schools.

Communion wafers give me gas

What is it called? Everyone seems to be calling it Injury Default. If not for an injury why is it in the rule book. If wrestlers are weighed in, bracketed, checked in, and not injured, then refusal to wrestle should mimimally be a forfiet, or perhaps even a DQ. If the two coaches were involved in the decisions to default under false pretenses than they are also guilty, should be DQ and forced to leave the building. This incident has a terrible smell. Exceptionally bad, bad sportsmanship. Do the announcers read the KSHSAA Sportsmanship blurb before sporting events at parochial schools?

Just catching up with this post and read the threads.



1. I find it amazing a Bishop can dictate policy like this when there is no precedence anywhere else in the country. Maybe some ego here. And BS to do it in the middle of the season. I would seriously consider sending kids to a public school.

2. How can you say a kid with an 18-16 record got robbed.

3. I posted the article on an the Indiana wrestling thread, and had various responses but they were utterly amazed that this would happen. There is no policy like that in Indiana.

4. Saw a girl in Indiana last week that would go deep in the Kansas tournament and IMO would place in any of the 4 classes in KS.

5. Until the girls have their own class, then people need to get over them wrestling boys. These girls work hard and will beat some boys, and the boys are going to have to pull the old boot straps up and move on.

I find that remark hard to believe.
What was the girl's name, school, weight and classification?
Did she wrestle in the Indiana tournament? If so, how did she do?

Answers appreciated.

[quote=BulldogAlum][quote=fan of the sport]Just catching up with this post and read the threads.






4. Saw a girl in Indiana last week that would go deep in the Kansas tournament and IMO would place in any of the 4 classes in KS.



I find that remark hard to believe.
What was the girl's name, school, weight and classification?
Did she wrestle in the Indiana tournament? If so, how did she do?

Answers appreciated.

The girls name is Kayla Miracle. She wrestles for Culver Academy and wrestles 120 pounds and is a Junior. Her nickname is the miracle girl.


Wrestling credentials: Last year was first girl to qualify for state in Indiana. Qualified at 106 lbs. This year got upset at Semi-state at 120 lbs but took 5th in Semi-state tournament and was alternate to state.

If you know anything Indiana has one class and qualifying at state is easily equivalent to placing in state in Kansas. Note here semi-state had partipation of over 80 schools and she took top 4. I heard she is highly ranked on womens USA wrestling team.

Beeson,

Because you challenged someone's morality over a decision that has much gray area. One can be moral, regardless of which way you see the decision.

I reply to you based on the law of averages. You post so often, usually saying something controversial, that you can't help but say something I disagree with. Plus, it's so much fun.

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Good enough for me, but I would say that having set rules and enforcing them only on occasion is not a gray area. The rule is there in black and white. There was not decision to be made, the rule should have been enforced from day one. Just how I see it.

She'd be the first one if she did. Kansas has never had a female state placer in wrestling. Several state qualifiers but none of the girls have placed and only a few have even won a match.

I believe Samantha Gonzales of Lakin is the only girl to win a match in the KSHSAA State Tournaments when she pinned her opponent in the consolation 1st round in 2008 at 103 lbs. in 321A.

Krista Revelle of Jefferson-West also won a match in 2011 at 125 lbs. in 4A but that was because of a default to a Topeka Hayden wrestler, so I'm sure it was because of similar circumstances as this topic relates to.

Now Kansas has had several female wrestlers who have been successful at the national level (Revelle, Brooke Bogren, etc.) when competing against other females, but there has yet to be a girl who has placed at one of the KSHSAA State Tournaments.

It may happen some day, but I do not foresee it happening in the near future. Girls have placed in brackets against boys in state tournaments like Alaska and Vermont where wrestling is not contested at the level of Kansas and Indiana. The glass ceiling will be broken in Kansas, just not this year.