Or...

Create a High School division for High School wrestlers. Oh yeah, we have one.

14 & under is cool!!! Go team!!!

13s wrestling 14 or 14s wrestling 18s im glad there's a choice. Not to mention those 13 will be 14 & will have the same choice next year.

You're glad that High School state placers in 10th grade choose to avoid the High School division and wrestle 7 graders?

To be clear, I'm not talking about sub 500 high school wrestlers. I'm talking about high school state placers.

I would bet there are no 10th graders still able to hit 14U.

I bet that 60 % of freshmen even qualify for 14u.

You would have lost that bet in the past. It has happened!

There may have been, but it is certainly the exception.

I would double or nothing that there are only a handful ever.

I got it if your at the top off 12 & a national champ you should have to wrestle 14 & under. And yes if you are a 14 year old 10 graider and you are with in the rules more power to ya.

I have seen high school state qualifiers not even make it out districts in 14. Sorry to burst your bubble freshman but some eighth graders are better than you! Wrestle your age. Your choice. Same as a six under choosing to do subs at 8. Some sixes better than some 8s. Want a true all class state tournament wrestle high school. Want see up coming competition. Wrestle your age. If I were an 8th grader wanting to peak in high school I would want a shot at the freshman to see how I will fair in a year.

No. You don't get it.



You won't need more power. You are a 10th grader.

I agree with the proposed change just not all of it. I think the top 4 fits that rule lots better.

5 and 6 in the right subs may never make it out. Sure steel sharpens steel but I bet 5th and 6th placer had seen plenty of steel.

I see both sides of this, it would help to improve Kansas wrestling.

I had no problem with Garrett wrestling a state placer last year he lost but so what. He was better for it. Hay state champ go ahead and wrestle 14 who cares. and your wrong I do get it.

If they change the rules cool I'll be on your side but for now do whatever your comfortable with. that and I just like to argue :-) its fun

By bringing up an example of a good 12U wrestler being forced to wrestle 14U and likening that to a High School State Champion being forced to wrestle in his own division, showed that you don't get it.

Until there is a grand state, having a high school division can truly settle who the best of the best is in the state. But there are arguements in that the wrestlers will be at different weights and conditioning levels.

Another DEAD HORSE being flogged!!!! The idea was proposed at the state body meeting and was voted down....by a large number.

If you are going to impose a rule like that then you need to do away with any special awards such as the Triple Crown because kids are not allowed to compete for it based on the age they actually are.

That is just one small impact that would effect the kids if a rule was put in place. High School state placers wrestling in the 14U division represent a very small minority of our numbers. The last thing we need is more regulations.

Shawn Budke

I am curious how many High School state champs are wrestling 14U. Anyone have a number? I have seen a few High school state placers wrestling 14U and I may not understand why, I don't really have a problem with it. I do support the decision that Freshmen and in a few cases 10th graders that wrestled varsity and were facing older more mature kids and taking some beatings are wrestling 14U. They stuck it out, took their lumps and now they have a chance to wrestle kids their own age and maturity level. They paid their dues this year. Let them get out there and have some fun where they have a better chance at success. How many of them would just stay home instead of signing up for the state series if they had to wrestle High School? Just for the record, no I do not have a freshman wrestling 14U and am justifying that with this post.

ok than the #1 ranked 12 year old national champ. Why would that be any difrent. He's sure to beet every body so he should have to wrestle up thats your argument write.

One thing to consider is that a HS wrestler never mind state placer gets in about 40 matches a season some less if JV or due to injury. Most kids wrestlers ave 20 matches before state series with most of those wrestling the same kids over and over. The exception being kids who go to National tournaments. There is also practice time involved and conditioning time that MS age kids normally don't get. There are some vast differences in making the comparison to a HS wrestler and a MS age wrestler. Now if they would allow MS age wrestlers as long a season and or offer them the opportunity to wrestle weekends that might be a different story.