Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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I think i got it now. Common sense means we use Cokeley's subjective opinion instead of objective criteria Not really... You have to take into consideration lots of factors not just throw down a few statements and call it good. For example, being an AA at Fargo doesn't always mean something. You have to ask the tough questions: What weight? Cadet? Junior? Greco? Freestyle? How many were in the bracket? Who were his opponents? You can't just seed someone based on criteria. Sometimes coaches "KNOW" who is better but for selfish reasons argue based on OBJECTIVE statements when there is much more to the situation. I really don't like using the placement at the same tournament the year before as a high level criteria. Who was in the bracket? How many weight classes did he move up? Was he bumping up the year before for competition? The number one criteria should ALWAYS be state placement because winning state should be everyone's number one goal. Then you can ask some tough questions there too. Seeding cannot be objective when you mix classes, states, and different competition or strength of schedules.
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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Subjective or objective, are you gonna preview the other weight classes?
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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01/15/14 06:10 PM
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Subjective or objective, are you gonna preview the other weight classes? Patience... I have a real job. 145 1. Andrew Tujague SJA #1 5A KS 2. Michael Olsen Lansing #1 5A KS 152 3. Will Steltzen Collinsville #1 5A OK 4. Kaleb Konitzer Prairie View #1 4A KS 5. Jacob Durossette Ft. Scott #2 4A KS 6. Daemion Gay Top Sea #3 5A KS 7. Zach Hoskins STA #4 5A KS 8. Grady Ware Clay Center #3 4A KS Jon Pratt Baldwin #5 4A KS
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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01/15/14 06:20 PM
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152 LOADED - OW Bracket & 10 ranked wrestlers!! 1. Isaac Dulgarian #1 5A 160 KS (State Champ & 3rd) 2. Andrew Milsap Junction City #1 6A KS (2x State Champ) 2. Taegen Lambotte Rossville #1 321A KS (3x State Champ) 4. Wyatt Jordan Collinsville 5. Asher Huseman Tongie #4 4A KS 6. William Holland Prairie View #5 4A KS 7. Sammy Cokeley SJA - Sleeper  8. Zach Jaso Olathe No #3 6A KS Justin Wagner ACCHS #5 321a Patrick Romero Mountain Range #8 5A CO
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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01/15/14 07:23 PM
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160 There could be a big upset in this one? 1. Daniel Lewis Blue Springs #1 4A MO 2. Ben Vanlerberg SJA #3 5A KS 3. Taylor Watkins Columbus #1 4A KS 4. Luke Henes STA #2 5A KS 5. Brett Woodruff Goddard #4 5A KS 6. Cory McCleary BLHS #5 4A KS 7. Tyler Moulden Olathe No #6 6A KS 8. Josh Arnold Collinsville
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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01/15/14 08:13 PM
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160 There could be a big upset in this one? 1. Daniel Lewis Blue Springs #1 4A MO 2. Isaac Dulgarian STA #1 5A KS 3. Ben Vanlerberg SJA #3 5A KS 4. Taylor Watkins Columbus #1 4A KS 5. Brett Woodruff Goddard #4 5A KS 6. Cory McCleary BLHS #5 4A KS 7. Tyler Moulden Olathe No #6 6A KS 8. Josh Arnold Collinsville Isaac be 152
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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01/15/14 08:14 PM
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126: Interestingly, half of the ALL CLASS 126lbers will be battling it out this weekend...
1. Sean DeShazer - WH - 11 - 5A - 17-0 2. Reese Cokeley - SJA - 12 - 5A - 15-2 3. Clay Weil - DC - 10 - 6A - 13-1 4. Grant Hollingsworth - SME - 12 - 12-4 5. Thomas Lisher - BAL - 9 - 4A - 13-2 6. Jerad Heckman - FS - 12 - 4A - 13-2 7. Adam Pelfrey - BVSW - 12 - 5A - 14-2 8. PJ Cheney - TUR - 12 - 5A - 9-3 9. Cody McDonald - DB - 11 - 6A - 10-3 10. Kendall Frame - GD - 9 - 5A - 13-3
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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4 of the other 5 are at Newton 126: Interestingly, half of the ALL CLASS 126lbers will be battling it out this weekend...
1. Sean DeShazer - WH - 11 - 5A - 17-0 2. Reese Cokeley - SJA - 12 - 5A - 15-2 3. Clay Weil - DC - 10 - 6A - 13-1 4. Grant Hollingsworth - SME - 12 - 12-4 5. Thomas Lisher - BAL - 9 - 4A - 13-2 6. Jerad Heckman - FS - 12 - 4A - 13-27. Adam Pelfrey - BVSW - 12 - 5A - 14-2 8. PJ Cheney - TUR - 12 - 5A - 9-39. Cody McDonald - DB - 11 - 6A - 10-3 10. Kendall Frame - GD - 9 - 5A - 13-3
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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4 of the other 5 are at Newton 126: Interestingly, half of the ALL CLASS 126lbers will be battling it out this weekend...
1. Sean DeShazer - WH - 11 - 5A - 17-0 2. Reese Cokeley - SJA - 12 - 5A - 15-2 3. Clay Weil - DC - 10 - 6A - 13-1 4. Grant Hollingsworth - SME - 12 - 12-4 5. Thomas Lisher - BAL - 9 - 4A - 13-2 6. Jerad Heckman - FS - 12 - 4A - 13-2 7. Adam Pelfrey - BVSW - 12 - 5A - 14-2 8. PJ Cheney - TUR - 12 - 5A - 9-3 9. Cody McDonald - DB - 11 - 6A - 10-3 10. Kendall Frame - GD - 9 - 5A - 13-3 The remaining 126lber used to go to the Bobcat but they were not listed this year...
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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01/15/14 11:49 PM
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170 1. Matt Pratt SJA #1 5A KS 2. Tyler Harris Atchison #4 321A KS 3. Dakota Driskill Goddard #4 5A KS 4. Micah Felton Junction City #3 6A KS 5. AJ Totta Blue Valley #4 6A KS 6. Cory Cash Collinsville
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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182 #1 Trent Salsbury SJA #1 5A KS #2 Gavin Grater Riley County #2 321A KS #3 Jackson Macoubrie Blue Valley #2 6A KS #4 Devonte Wilson Junction City #4 6A KS #5 Jace McDown Columbus #6 4A KS
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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195 Will Pixley wrestle 2 minutes in total? #1 Michael Pixley Blue Springs #1 4A MO
Adam Muehlbach Platte County #8 3A MO Caleb Ward Lansing #6 5A KS Mario Garcia Baldwin #6 4A KS
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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220 #1 Ben Ewing STA #1 5A KS #2 Priddy Collinsville #1 5A OK #3 Corey Atkins Goddard#2 5A KS #4 David Feist SJA #5 5A KS #5 Tiler Garcia Baldwin #5 4A KS #6 Kayne Hutchison Junction City #6 6A KS #7 Kody Kleman Mountain Range #10 5A CO
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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285 #1 Jorge Rodriquez Mountain Range #1 5A CO #2 Jason Zook Chapman #3 4A KS #3 Mason Naphy Lansing #6 5A KS #4 Brendan Blackburn #5 4A KS #5 Douglas Collinsville 5A OK
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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I have NO information for Smithville, MO. The MO rankings are not available for 2A??
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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1. Mathew Schmidt Platte county 2. Nate Kiem collinsville,Ok 3. Gage Harmon Missouri 4. Corbin Kirschner Ks 5. GARY Joint Ks 6. Lane Glove Ks
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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195 Will Pixley wrestle 2 minutes in total? #1 Michael Pixley Blue Springs #1 4A MO
Adam Muehlbach Platte County #8 3A MO Caleb Ward Lansing #6 5A KS Mario Garcia Baldwin #6 4A KS Baily Kelly Topeka Seaman will be in the mix...
Did you see that Eckenbacherswartzendruber?
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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195 Will Pixley wrestle 2 minutes in total? #1 Michael Pixley Blue Springs #1 4A MO
Adam Muehlbach Platte County #8 3A MO Caleb Ward Lansing #6 5A KS Mario Garcia Baldwin #6 4A KS Baily Kelly Topeka Seaman will be in the mix... I wondered if he was wrestling when I didn't see him ranked. He will be in the mix for 2nd.  No offense but it is what it is.
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Re: 2014 BOBCAT CLASSIC PREDICTIONS
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195 Will Pixley wrestle 2 minutes in total? #1 Michael Pixley Blue Springs #1 4A MO
Adam Muehlbach Platte County #8 3A MO Caleb Ward Lansing #6 5A KS Mario Garcia Baldwin #6 4A KS Baily Kelly Topeka Seaman will be in the mix... I wondered if he was wrestling when I didn't see him ranked. He will be in the mix for 2nd.  No offense but it is what it is. He wrestled at the seaman dual tourny last weekend, being second to pixley is nothing to be ashamed of.
Did you see that Eckenbacherswartzendruber?
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