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03/04/14 11:13 PM
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Does anyone still think I had a St. James bias? It looks like I underestimated them!
All those negative comments about me unrightfully ranking them too high and then they win by 63 points and I can hear birds chirping. Isn't that always like it is? Oh well... It's lonely being a ranker. lol.
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03/04/14 11:21 PM
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IMOP, your predictions were spot on. You made a comment early in the season of, "don't wake a sleeping giant", (Goddard). Weighing the age and talent, SJA, was the team to beat. Bias, no, but next year, with fingers crossed, the "giant" might be awakening. Lol.
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03/05/14 12:24 AM
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Does anyone still think I had a St. James bias? It looks like I underestimated them!
All those negative comments about me unrightfully ranking them too high and then they win by 63 points and I can hear birds chirping. Isn't that always like it is? Oh well... It's lonely being a ranker. lol. It's lonely at the top Chief. Keep doin what you're doin, because I don't see anybody stepping up trying to do a better job.
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03/05/14 12:28 AM
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Nothing wrong with being biased....the question is can you back it up? Obviously you can.
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03/05/14 12:38 AM
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I still think that you are biased. The problem is there is nothing wrong with being biased. Just be honest enough with yourself to admit it.
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03/05/14 12:44 AM
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Lol. Look up bias. It means favortism or unfairness. I just called it as it was and evidently not loud enough.
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03/05/14 01:01 AM
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I think you are very objective and for the most part do a great job. I also think that you root for St. James and all things being even the St. James kid would get the nod.
People can be objective and biased at the same time. I am. I root for the Bulldogs and want them to do well. I also see the point of view against the Bulldogs when a call goes against them. I can make a fair call even if it is against the Bulldogs. That is Objective and Biased. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. Just be able to admit it.
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03/05/14 01:03 AM
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When I ranked Goddard #1 for two years, they called me Wichita biased. Which is it?
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03/05/14 01:04 AM
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Are we really arguing in text and on the forum.  Lets pick just one place to debate. 
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03/05/14 01:05 AM
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As I texted, it is easy to pick the best wrestlers or team in the state. It is when you get to the bottom of the better wrestlers that it starts to show. Picking the favorite is easy.
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03/05/14 01:12 AM
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As I texted, it is easy to pick the best wrestlers or team in the state. It is when you get to the bottom of the better wrestlers that it starts to show. Picking the favorite is easy. Never any examples. Just empty talk.
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03/05/14 01:18 AM
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Not always, "picking the favorite, is easy" Chad you picked KMC, to be the team to beat. You lost that, prediction. Chief, had SJA. Goddard #2. KMC #3. Don't see your reasoning on "Bias"? He calls it like he sees it. Good job Chief.
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03/05/14 01:19 AM
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I'll get you some examples. If it is just empty talk, why is it eating at you to the point you made a topic just for this subject. You must feel there is some merit to it, or it wouldn't bother you.
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03/05/14 01:20 AM
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I'll get you some examples. If it is just empty talk, why is it eating at you to the point you made a topic just for this subject. You must feel there is some merit to it, or it wouldn't bother you. The truth will set you free Chad. 
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03/05/14 01:20 AM
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Not always, "picking the favorite, is easy" Chad you picked KMC, to be the team to beat. You lost that, prediction. Chief, had SJA. Goddard #2. KMC #3. Don't see your reasoning on "Bias"? He calls it like he sees it. Good job Chief. Well I had Goddard before Chief moved them to #2. Why don't you check and see how close he was at the beginning of the year. SJA still #1, that was the easy one. And I picked KMC and Goddard in the middle of the season to bring some excitement to the forums. It did help.
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03/05/14 01:32 AM
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First Rankings: #1 SJA #2 STA #3 Ark City KMC and Goddard were not even in the rankings. The best was the easiest, took forever for KMC and Goddard to crack into the rankings.
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03/05/14 01:55 AM
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Ok, true. Took a long time. SJA, KMC. Had multiple seniors. Ark city, and Goddard didn't. As the season progressed don't you feel these 2 young teams made a mark on the future? (Ark City, Goddard). Just don't see "Bias" as a concern.
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03/05/14 02:05 AM
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I agree "Bias" is not a concern. I just would like for it to be admitted. The rankings are pretty close, but they should be. They change every week, sometimes two or three times a week. I appreciate what Chief does as much as the next guy, but they aren't even close to what they were at the beginning of the year.
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03/05/14 02:09 AM
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Let me say congrats Chief and St. James. Turns out that they were the best team this year. I have given Chief quite a bit of grief this year about bias, and unfortunately I went to far and it turned into being critical of his rankings. 90% of the time I feel that you rankings are right on. The thing that makes me call bias actually has less to do with your rankings and more to do with your common theme on most of the threads on the forum.... If it is good for St. Thomas and St. James Chief is for it.... if not he is against it.... When post go up about St. James kids getting 100 wins he is first to say great kid and great job... I just miss not seeing him comment on most of the other kids threads. By the way Chief, I enjoyed the picture of you holding the St. James 1st place trophy this year at state, guess I just missed the picture of you with Ark City the last 2 years....
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03/05/14 02:24 AM
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I never said because you were biased your picks were wrong. I just think it's biased that you root for them so much. But yes, with all of the talent they "put together" it was inevitable they would win. Congratulations SJA/Blair Academy.
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