Ouch. And I'm the one who took a shot at someone. By the way Mark, I thought this thread was about the saving seats situation at state. Nothing that I have said on this thread has in anyway taken away from the great kids that competed at Topeka. If you can't take someone's opinion or stand behind your own comments then maybe you shouldn't be tournament director or in a position of authority. All I did was point out your comments of "the only seats being saved" please explain how that is taking your words out of context, if you misspoke that's one thing but to try to call me out on YOUR comment is wrong. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

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No hard feelings on my end Jerry. I am a good listener and will take your suggestions to the tourney committee. Feel free to email any other suggestions you have to usawks.statetournament@gmail.com

simple solution here:

Win the auction for the section of chairs, and your seats will be saved all weekend.

There are actually some small clubs out there that don't have the luxury of a large bank account. So what your simple solution says is, if you don't have money you don't matter? That's kind of the way it sounds.

funny get over it!!!!

sorry funny hehe get over it

you got to think for your self if it was my club hmmm I wouldn't be saying a thing. And you wouldn't. so get over it

Well growing up in SW KS I know that Scot city is not a huge club,but yet they come up with money. So it is simple. Put in the work and raise money for your club.

Please tell me none of them were wearing an Ark City shirt?

They better not have been.

So again, if you don't have money you don't matter. At least be big enough to say it. There are a lot of kids in the wichita area that don't have much. I totally understand that they don't matter to you.

OK J.Dale I am not going to get into a piddy party with you. I simply said if your club doesn't have the numbers or the MONEY. There are ways to earn money. Run a tournament, do fund raisers, ask for donations, etc... I know there are many kids out there that don't have much, every club has these athletes and many times these athletes are your hardest workers because they have had to work for everything they have in life. So once again don't pull the club number or location card for no money because there are ways to earn money in every club no matter location or size. Then after you earn this money you can have your saved seats that you want so bad.

I have said this for years, not on the forum, but talking with multiple coaches. The "auction is cool, money goes to a great fund." But also why don't the defending champs get a section, lower level? Each team be it, Brawlers, Ark City, East Ks, KYG, Derby, etc. have earned it. Each year it will change. Something to look at. Our team sat in the "nose bleed section" with no complaints. But saving seats has ALWAYS been, the way it is. UP WITH THE CHICKENS TO GET A GOOD SEAT.

we dont even bother getting there early anymore. we get there about half hour before the opening parade and find whatever seat we can. we move down right before our kids matches and sit in a saved seat long enough to watch their match. the people saving the seats are usually alright with it.

Silent, TOTALLY AGREE! My wife asked El Dorado if she could sit with them on Sunday, and they were VERY nice, they made room for her and her parents. Sometimes all you have to do is ask. Being rude will get you know where.

When quoting 3 paragraphs from ??? Please place bibliography citation/reference in MLA or APA style. Could just be OTC Mouthwash. You certainly don't believe EVERYTHING YOU READ on the Internet????

Ok Jerry, we got this next year gather the 40 largest tarps you & your minions hit the 1st 3 rows of every section that is not sold at auction. My minions will do the same with their 40 tarps. It's called camping/sleeping whatever as all of the announcements were made on deaf ears and nojody really paid attention to the announcements......It will be Wrestling Matness in KS for sure!!! The plan is sure coming together!

In it. It's on. I've got tons of tarps. By the way, I finally agree with something Spexy said. Defending champs should get a section.

In it, I just found some 40'x50' tarps. If we tied 4 or 5 of those together we would be set. And as long as we didn't try to do it overnight then they won't do anything. We could make people buy our food to sit there. Who's in?