No matter how you sound it out, I do not understand how you can say that WNW and WSo. should be ranked higher than CHS. Did they not have their varsity lineups wrestling at Carroll? Are those kids just going to stop holding back at state? I don't know what coach is telling their kids to hold back until state.

How about you give us the weights you think he has wrong with them corrected and reasons why the corrections.

I may not always agree with the Chief, but his though processes are typically pretty sound. If someone you are challenging about has beat one of the ranked kids, lets hear that and when, or if that same kids beat a kid that beat a ranked kid again another example of back up or documentation if you will.

I know there kid ranked on there that has lost several matches, but to some very tough out of state kids.

Quit throwing darts and state your case for the kid(s) in question, my bet is you don't have one therefore you talk in generalities.

Disclaimer: this is not the Chief or directed by the Chief I somewhat still dislike his thoughts on a few topics. this post was not paid for any the Chief, although I will accept anything he is willing to throw may way.

Look up the Carroll team results, case and point. Northwest and South were beaten badly. They should be ranked behind CHS. I do not need to go to deep into the brackets to realize it doesn't make sense. I am just curious what the criteria is, Seems like a guess. I am not attacking anyone, I am looking for actual clarification.

132- Brycen Shroeder placed higher than Brock. ... How about that for one.

Weekend tournament have little to no relevance in State Tournament finishes.

Case in point: Andale has finsihed behind us (Buhler) in the Pratt tournament in team points.

Will that be the case in state, more than likely not. they have 3-4 kids that will more than likely collect alot of points at state.

Meaning that the rest of their roster might be weak or even open and we (Buhler) had collected alot of points at that tournament that we wouldn't get at state.

I am pretty sure that the formula for state was posted.

Average weekend results, even with same class teams there are irrelevant because eveyone is earning points at those tournaments, not just the ones that qualify for state.

Why is that hard to understand?

I would agree with you that would change both the team and the individual rankings, if they would have wrestled each other. Smith getting DQ'd and basically giving the HC kid a free pass to the finals.

It isn't always about the finish, it is about the head to head.

Clearly, with all due respect, you still have a fundamental misunderstanding of the class rankings. If you would like to call me at 913-484-3624, I would be glad to talk about every single weight. Let me try to explain once again, using four of the weights at the BC tournament...

106 - The Campus 106 placed 2nd and scored 16 points. He is currently not ranked in 6A. He has lost to Nippert and Reling who are also not ranked in 6A. Now to his credit, both of those guys are pretty tough and 106 is always up for grabs with all of the young talent. Having said this, I cannot currently award many points to him for the Class 6A tournament ranking. So... those 16 points go to about 2 points at state. The current rankings are forced to look in the rear view mirror at current criteria. I hope he places at state! I have no personal agenda here. Go Kai!

160 - The Campus 160 took 2nd and scored 20 points. He lost to a tough WH guy in the finals. He has also lost to two unranked wrestlers from MUL and HAY. He has not yet achieved criteria to rank him in 6A. So... those 20 points would go to 2-4 points at state. Once again, I wish Kevin the best! That weight is actually wide open and if he places high, I would not be surprised.

There are 5 or 6 other weights at that tournament that I can explain the same scenario at state.

Now let's look at WNW...

120 - The WNW 120 pounder took 1st and scored 18 points due to TWO byes that he got in the bracket. He is currently ranked 2nd in 6A but may end up 1st after this weekend. So, those 18 points stay there at 6A state. Possibly 20-24 points.

132 - The WNW 132 pounder placed 3rd and scored 15 points. You referenced him in another post as placing lower that the Campus guy at this weight. Brock and Brycen did not wrestle at this event, as you know? Brycen lost to Kasitz 11-0 in the finals. Brock lost to Kasitz 6-2 and is a returning state finalist. He is currently ranked 2nd at state. At that placing, he would score 15-20 points.

I could go on at 152, 170, 220 and 285 to show that the WNW points will stay high at the state tournament, based on current known criteria.

Now.... If you cannot see what is going on here, please call me OR have Mel Miller call me. I would be glad to further explain.

Whew...

If you are going to call someone out. Please add your name to your posts. It is easy and it is an auto thing.

That's just the way it is!

Just to clarify, that was no free pass to the finals. The Campus kid was up and about to win the match when Smith lost his cool and got DQ'd.

As a reminder to all of our 6A fans, here is the 6A Regional in Dodge City this year.

#1 Garden City
#3 Wichita Northwest
#5 Dodge City
#6 Wichita South
#7 Derby
#8 Campus
#10 Hutchinson
Wichita West

Four at each weight advance to state. Do the math...

Roger that, again things are always as they seem.

My apologies.

Someone has a little more pull at placing their schools with KSHAA, cause it's not a distance thing!

I think you have to clarify that at least 50 times a year! You should probably just include that in every updated ranking with a disclaimer at the bottom. lol

Crickets. . .

No name calling....haha

Does distance matter? Or is it who is in your regional?

Curious to see the rankings updated now. We beat W. South in another tournament. Including a win over #1 at 113.

The new 6A Rankings on posted!!! I think you are going to like 'em!

Campus Beat Derby in a dual tonight 29-24

Flores beat Schroeder last weekend!