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Re: who will place in 6a state #25400 02/09/04 02:40 AM
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wrestlerette05, this is a really old post, those were last years predictions at the top.

And man, Venegas did not know how to spell/punctuate/sound intelligent.

Re: who will place in 6a state #25401 02/09/04 02:45 AM
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Yeah, you know it's bad when between him and Browning, Dallas is the smart one.

Re: who will place in 6a state #25402 02/09/04 02:50 AM
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32 schools right? with 14 weights making the max # in the state for 6a wrestlers on varsity= 448

A bit over 18% of the state will place in 6a if math is correct


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Re: who will place in 6a state #25403 02/09/04 03:00 AM
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Relevance?

Re: who will place in 6a state #25404 02/09/04 01:33 PM
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Hello, friends! This is Prant, coming to you from a computer that frowns upon posting on forums of any kind. And because I'm too poor to buy my own computer, I'll just have to post to you through our good buddy Jhris and his hamburger for now.

Earlier this evening, Aaron Sweazy posted about how 18% of wrestlers in 6a place at state. This, along with the never-ending debate of "which class is hardest?" got me thinking...And because I have no life, these are some rough statistics that I came up with.

And the hardest class statistically is:
(**Drumroll please**)

6A!!!! Now here are the numbers which back up my claim, and should forever end the "Which class is hardest?" debate.

6A has approximately 37982 students, while 5A has 23024, 4a 21264, and 321 approximately 29211 potential wrestlers. Let's assume half of those students are boys. The breakdown is like this:

6A: 18911 boys
5A: 11512 boys
4A: 10632 boys
321a: 14611 boys

That means (assuming only boys wrestle), that if someone-let's call him Prant Jr.-- moved from out of state and could select from any school, any classification, the breakdown would be this:

6A: 448 available varsity spots (32 schools x 14 weights)
5A: 448 available varsity spots (32 schools x 14 weights)
4A: 896 available varsity spots (64 schools x 14 weights)
321A: 3374 available varsity spots (241 schools x 14 weights)

With both of the above statistics and using the formula (available varsity spots/# of boys), if Prant Jr. selects a school from any classification, he has the following probability of making varsity:

6A: 2.4%
5A: 3.9%
4A: 8.4%
321A: 23.1%

That's almost a 1 in 4 chance of making varsity at a 321a school! But have no fear, 321a guys, your class is very hard to place at state! But let's look at little Prant Jr.'s options for making it to state first.

Let's take all those boys and divide that by the number of available spots at state--(in 6a's case 18991 boys/448 available state qualifiers and in 321a's case 14611 boys/448 available sq's) and we get the percentage of Prant Jr. qualifying for state, assuming he still has a choice of school classification.

6A: 2.4%
5A: 3.9%
4A: 4.21%
321A: 3.1%

That means statistically, 6A is the hardest class to make it to state, followed by 321a. Sorry, 4a, you guys are last--but not by much, so it's okay.

There are 84 available state medals for each classification. Using the above statistics for boys, and dividing the available medals by the available participants (84 medals/# of boys), we find out the percentage of boys in each class who actually gain a state medal.

6A: .44%
5A: .73%
4A: .79%
321A: .57%

And there we have it, folks! If Prant Jr. has a choice of any classification, he not only has the worst statistical chance of making it on varsity in 6A, but also in making it to state AND placing. 321a comes in 2nd, 5a in third (ha, yeah right), and 4a comes in last.

Now, if you were Prant Jr., what class would YOU pick? Certainly not 6a. You might not even make it out of the mat room there...

So with all do respect, Mr. Sweazy, your math IS wrong. Maybe now that I have wasted all this time, we can shut up. All you guys who think little schools have such a hard time at state- shut your cake hole. I'm no math major so this might not be exactly accurate (a few are averaged), but I think this proves my point. No class is harder than another--but if you want to go by math....well then. You have your answer.

Thanks, and have fun on the forum!

-Prant


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: who will place in 6a state #25405 02/09/04 03:15 PM
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I would have to say that is one amazing set of statistics that I truly agree with.

You should repost that on it's own topic of discussion instead of sitting at the bottom of a million other post.

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Re: who will place in 6a state #25406 02/09/04 04:24 PM
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Another stat you missed assuming that all everyschool has the full 14 at varsity (rounding up or down accordingly to what's on the other side of the decimal)....

448 in 6a going for 84 medals means 19% of the 6a brings home medals.

same with 5a

896 in 4a means that 9% bring home state medals

3374 in 3a means that 2% brings home state medals.


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Re: who will place in 6a state #25407 02/09/04 04:36 PM
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Swayz, you may want to give your high school math teachers a good talkin' to for not doing their jobs. Either that, or re-read the story problem.


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Re: who will place in 6a state #25408 02/09/04 04:45 PM
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84/448 =18.75 I bumped it up...my math isn't off....almost 19 not 18 like I mentioned earlier percent of 5 and 6a are placing...more than double 4a and way above 3a


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Re: who will place in 6a state #25409 02/09/04 05:17 PM
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I think you're doing the wrong math buddy. You're multiplying and dividing numbers that don't mean anything.


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: who will place in 6a state #25410 02/09/04 05:27 PM
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I'm taking the max total of participants (varsity wise) 448 in 6a...you then take total # of state placewinners available which is 84 and divide 84 by 448 to get the % chance of placing in 6a.


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Re: who will place in 6a state #25411 02/09/04 05:46 PM
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There are 84 available state medals for each classification. Using the above statistics for boys, and dividing the available medals by the available participants (84 medals/# of boys), we find out the percentage of boys in each class who actually gain a state medal.

6A: .44%
5A: .73%
4A: .79%
321A: .57%
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# of boys should be # of boys on varsity in the state which would be 448 in 5 and 6a, which when plugged into your formula results in 18.75% of 5 and 6a medals at the state tournament. Also if you do your math, half of 5 and 6a make it to state.


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