acbulldog, like I said, i'm not going to argue about the history and tradition of Ark City. When you take in the past 20 years, yes Ark City has had much more success than Bishop Carroll. Over the past 4-5 years, it has been very close competition. So, I'm not going to debate which team is better. We won it this year, Turner won it last year, Ark City won it the year before that, Bishop Carroll won it the year before that.... We are all very competitive teams. I personally enjoy the competition that we all give to each other year in and year out and I would like to keep it that way.

As for Pat Giangrosso, no he did not always live in Wichita. If you want to use Pat as an example of Bishop Carroll recruiting away from other schools, please feel free. I think that you will find it hard to show that Bishop Carroll recruited Pat away from the school he was supposed to attend in Pennsylvania. That's a heckuva commute just to wrestle. And from what I understand, his father took a job after Pat graduated in Winfield to coach football. I could be mistaken on that. I do remember asking Pat if his brother was going to wrestle for Carroll when he came to school there. We were told that he would not be attending Carroll because the family was moving due to a job change in the family.

Oh, and its Jumbo, no need for name calling.