piner, I did a little research for you and I did see that Tyler Kuhn at State took 3rd in 2001 and 6th last year in 2003. He took 6th last year in the same bracket 12 & under, 140 that EJ Walter took second at to Tischhauser. I am not sure whether Kuhn and Walter have faced each other before. They will probably both be in contention this year at State. Are you in this bracket? If you are how did you do at Subs and who is going to be tough at this weight from your district?