I agree with LegRider, Jason Hosey. I would really not confuse the issue with national tournament wins and places either. First of all you run into the problem of what national tournaments should be recognized as such. The next problem is that there are some national tournament brackets that really do not get that many kids entered. The Liberty national tournament my son was in last year only had seven kids in his bracket so only one kid did not place. His state tournaments have almost always had 16 kids not to mention all the others who try to qualify at Subs and District. I think that Jason has suggested a very good rating system for our State.