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Re: Newton Updates? #33667 01/16/05 02:37 AM
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Grater won 3-2.

Re: Newton Updates? #33668 01/16/05 03:19 AM
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The score on Cornejo and Grater did not show much, the official Mark Richards won. Grater stalled and tried to stay away for Joe. Not to mention that on the 2 pt takedown ther was no control.

Re: Newton Updates? #33669 01/16/05 03:34 AM
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i do think the score was 5-2 on grater cornejo joe tried a hedlock lost it in the last sec grater got another 2


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Re: Newton Updates? #33670 01/16/05 03:37 AM
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It was a good tournament this year. Pretty even team race with the title coming down to an overtime heavyweight match, which I might add was pretty good.

Re: Newton Updates? #33671 01/16/05 03:39 AM
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not to bad for the fattys sprigg and his speed won it ya think he plays football. great tackel at the line


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Re: Newton Updates? #33672 01/16/05 03:45 AM
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Norton went a long way to establishing statewide respect tonight. quite an accomplishment, guys!

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here's what I remember

103 Ely Leavenworth 7-0 Altman Derby
112 Metzler Newton 12-8 Madden Norton
119 Wall Andover over Munoz Wichita South
125 Crumbliss Ark City 6-4 OT Elliot Wichita South
130 Baldridge Campus Fall over Ast Emporia
135 Arnold Carroll over Swan Perry
140 Craig Hutch 11-3 over Sides Mac
145 Grater Clay Center 5-2 over Cornejo Campus
152 Anderson Campus Fall over Roe Norton
160 Sikes Perry Fall over ?
171 Boyer Clay Center 16-5 over Ark City
189 Pietrzyk Salina South over Larson Manhattan
215 Marrs Clay Center Fall over Archer Mac
275 Sprigg Norton 7-5 OT over Jessen Wichita NW

Sorry about this being incomplete as it is. It is just from my memory.

Re: Newton Updates? #33674 01/16/05 04:06 AM
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119 Wall Andover 12-5 Munoz Witchita South
135 Arnold Carroll 6-5 Swan Perry
160 Sikes Perry Fall Dikin Emporia
171 Boyer Clay Center 16-5 Scram Ark City
189 Pietrzyk Salina South 7-4 Larson Manhattan

Re: Newton Updates? #33675 01/16/05 04:11 AM
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Mr. Fairleigh, You express a rather condescending attitude . Norton and NW Kansas has had statewide respect in wrestling for a long time and winning the Newton Tournament is a big accomplishment for ANY school, regardless of size.


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Re: Newton Updates? #33676 01/16/05 08:54 AM
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Where did Hat Town finish? Who were the top five teams? Did Coach Andrade yell at anyone for not cleaning up their trash at dinner? (I've never been so scared...)

Re: Newton Updates? #33677 01/16/05 10:50 AM
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No disrespect meant, Mr. Egg. I Remember many of the Norton teams of the late 1960's and early 70's, knew several of those guys personally. My point was that , to the best of my knowlege, this is the first time I can think of that the Bluejays went head to head with most of the best 5 and 6 a teams in the state and beat them. That has in my view laid a lot of "what ifs", or, "if there was a grand state" talk to rest. Many of us have respected Norton for years, now many of the people that did not think they could wrestle with the larger schools have gained respect for them.

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Hat Town finised in eighth (8th) place behind a 3A school, a 4A school, three 5A schools, an Oklahoma team, and a 6A team.

Which school classification is it that Prant Garker is always denegrading?


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Re: Newton Updates? #33679 01/16/05 01:27 PM
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the scary part about norton is there depth one leaves and another stud steps in the next year amazing. what they have going on in that school. I thnk they only lose maybe three guys this year and evryone from 103-160 will be back.


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Re: Newton Updates? #33680 01/16/05 05:26 PM
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If I misread your oringinal post on this subject, I apologize.

"My point was that , to the best of my knowlege, this is the first time I can think of that the Bluejays went head to head with most of the best 5 and 6 a teams in the state and beat them. " Mike Fairleigh

Norton has been going head to head with the best wrestling teams in the state for a long time (as has St. Francis, Oberlin, Hoxie, Goodland, Oakley, Colby, Atwood, etc. etc.).

". . .many of the people that did not think they could wrestle with the larger schools have gained respect for them. " Mike Firleigh

This is the fourth year that Norton has attended this tournament and if memory serves me right (and it does fail from time to time) the BlueJays have not finished lower than 6th or 7th (year 1) and this is the third year that a trophy has been earned at the TOC. Shouldn't some some sort of respect been generated by now?

These people whose respect may have been earned with this championship are obviously ignorant about Kansas wrestling--its history, tradition, and strengths. Many of these people are excessively egocentric and believe that the size of school attended either bewtows or removes athletic attributes..

If the Norton victory did anything to dispel that idea, great! My guess is that these same people will be putting some kind of spin on this victory soon.


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Part of the strength of wrestling in NW Kansas is the heritage of the sport which has been passed on from father to son for decades.

I have the utmost respect for wrestling in NW Kansas and believe a large part of the success in South central Kansas is a direct result of successful athletes from NW Kansas who migrated to South central Kansas for their high school coaching careers. Three names immediately come to mind, Lyle Neville, C. Dee Gard, and Gus Garcia.


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Re: Newton Updates? #33682 01/17/05 03:01 AM
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Quote:
Which school classification is it that Prant Garker is always denegrading?
What is that last word? Also Perry, OK is class 2a in Oklahoma and has a spot in the National Wrestling Hall of Fame, it's also the town where Mr. Dan Hodge resides.


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Re: Newton Updates? #33683 01/17/05 08:23 AM
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Sweazy:

You caught me with a misspelled word! The actual word is denigrating, which means to disparage or belittle.


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Re: Newton Updates? #33684 01/17/05 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by RichardDSalyer:
Part of the strength of wrestling in NW Kansas is the heritage of the sport which has been passed on from father to son for decades.

I have the utmost respect for wrestling in NW Kansas and believe a large part of the success in South central Kansas is a direct result of successful athletes from NW Kansas who migrated to South central Kansas for their high school coaching careers. Three names immediately come to mind, Lyle Neville, C. Dee Gard, and Gus Garcia.
Lyle Neville coached my father, and my uncle to a state championship.

My uncle later attained all-american status in college.


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Re: Newton Updates? #33685 01/17/05 09:21 PM
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I saw the Cornejo vs. Grater match in a different light than a previous post.
I did not see Grater stalling anymore than
Cornejo. Neither wrestler was very agreesive on
their feet as far as shooting takedowns. Both
were content to tie up and look for an opening.
A few half shots and ankle pick attempts was all either wrestler really tried. Grater's 1st takedown was legit, however Cornejo did escape
quickly. Grater did attemp to shuck or drag
Cornejo by several times and scored his 1st TD
via this move. Cornejo never really went after Grater until the very end when it was do or die. Not alot of fireworks, but tough battle
between 2 of Kansas best. Grater looked to be
the quickest of the 2 on their feet. I would like to see a re-match at the Senior Classic.
Might a more exciting match next time around.


Re: Newton Updates? #33686 01/21/05 05:56 AM
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Grater vs Cornejo.
Where will Cornejo go to college?

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