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 only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 01:59 PM
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6A this year is dominated by upper classman unlike 54321A. Only 2 freshman in 6A placed at states- Romero Cotton-1rst and Jake Tanenbaum-4th.
My hats off to these two outstanding wrestlers!!!
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
#37581
02/27/05 05:15 PM
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You do know that the 6A champ in 275 was beat by the FRESHMAN from Salina Central twice this year?
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 05:19 PM
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acbulldog
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No kidding 6a was the weakest class by far this year like it always is.
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 05:34 PM
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AC, now common on with that. I do believe that 6A was a weaker class this year, however, overall in the past, with the exception of Ark City (1990's) 5A has was definately weaker than 6A. It is until recent times that this has changed. I believe they might be dead even now. Im not talking about the best two team, I am talking about overall competition. Probably pretty even. 6A is better at some weights, and 5A is better at some weights. Oh, and Elijah Madison is not a typical freshman. That's like saying Baldridge when he was a freshman shouldnt have beat a junior state champion at any other class. Have a great day.
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 07:02 PM
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Baldridge was lucky to win his freshman year. Would have lost to Cody Garcia in the finals if he hadn't been caught in that front headlock by Knox. You can't judge a class by heavyweights...ever. For the past 3 years, heavyweights have been terrible overall.
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 07:17 PM
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acbulldog
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103 hansen-altman altman by descision
112 graham-perez not sure
119 deschaser-edgmon have to give it to edgmon since he's beaten him every time
125 crumbliss-elliot crumbliss beat him in the finals at newton
130 baldridge-mancuso baldrige by decision
135 tucker-hentzen tucker by decision
140 grape-craig not sure
145 cornejo-cotton cornejo by pin
152 anderson-harris anderson by decision
160 jonas-kellerman jonas by decision
171 malloy-sonderegger malloy by decision
189 pietrzyk-cisper cisper by decision
215 sponsel-curran sponsel by decision
275 payne-jessen payne by decision
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 07:28 PM
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Kevin Cathcart
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You are wrong Sponsel never beat Curran
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 07:33 PM
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acbulldog
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I didn't say he beat him i said he would beat him there is a differnce.
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by acbulldog:
135 tucker-hentzen tucker by decision
I've wrestled both of these guys. I've never lost to Tucker, yet, I've lost to Hentzen...
Seth Farley
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 08:27 PM
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Actually I thought the heavy weights were better this year and that Salina kid is a stud. As for Baldridge beeing lucky I have to call that statement ********* ********* * **** ***** ** ** ****. Sorry I couldn't say it. No I'm glad I didn't say it.
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by wrestling20:
Baldridge was lucky to win his freshman year. Would have lost to Cody Garcia in the finals if he hadn't been caught in that front headlock by Knox. Luck had nothing to do with Knox catching Garcia and holding him in the pinning combination almost the entire third period of that match. The famous head and arm was a favorite of young Knox and Charlie did what he had to do to win the match. In the finals, Baldridge was dominate and defeated Knox because he was the better wrestler. Originally posted by wrestling20:
You can't judge a class by heavyweights...ever. For the past 3 years, heavyweights have been terrible overall. I challenge you to tell Jordan Bedore from Goodland or Tony Lewis from Ulysses they were terrible.
Richard D. Salyer
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 09:29 PM
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Didn't Tristen Desazher beat Edgemond this year?
"Stats are for losers. Final scores are for winners." Bill Belicheck
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 09:42 PM
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 09:47 PM
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HHS 189
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by BigPin22:
Didn't Tristen Desazher beat Edgemond this year? I do not believe Tristan DeShazer and Tommy Edgmon wrestled this year due to Edgmon's injury. I believe all of Tommy's losses were due to injury default.
Richard D. Salyer
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/27/05 11:47 PM
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ACBULLDOG, Malloy and Sonderegger have never met. They both have close losses to wiscombe and they both pinned krahn the 5A 171 runner up. I'd like to see that match.
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/28/05 01:41 AM
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what year is altman, i thought he was a freshman but im not sure
Dont have a cow, its just a post
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/28/05 01:45 AM
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RichardDSalyer
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Originally posted by Little Buster:
what year is altman, i thought he was a freshman but im not sure Donnie Altman is a junior.
Richard D. Salyer
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/28/05 02:41 PM
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Tommy did not wrestle Tristan this year. He actually lost to Ben Ashmore of Bishop Lynch (Texas) and to Crumbliss of Ark City when I bumped him to 125. Both are darn good kids. The other was due to injury default.
Have a great freestyle season!
Jilka
"The days I can keep my gratitude higher than my expectations...those are good days" ~ Judy Hubbard
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Re: only 2 6A freshman place
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02/28/05 03:30 PM
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6A State champs vs. 5A State champs - Dual Match
5A - 29
6A - 25
103 - Altman dec. Hanson (3-0 team score)
112 - Perez maj. dec Graham (7-0)
119 - Edgmon dec. Deshayzer (10-0)
125 - Crumbliss dec. Elliott (10-3)
130 - Baldridge dec. Mancuso (very close, 10-6)
135 - Tucker dec. Hentzen (10-9)
140 - Grape vs. Craig (Too close, 13-12)
145 - Cornejo sup. dec Cotton (13-17)
152 - Anderson dec. Harris (13-20)
160 - Jonas vs. Kellerman (Too close, 16-23)
171 - Soderegger vs. Malloy (Too close, 19-26)
189 - Cisper dec. Pietrzyk (22-26)
215 - Curren dec. Sponsel (25-26)
275 - Payne dec. Jessen (25-29)
130,140,160 and 171 are swing matches.....
Eric Johnson
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