If you say so, why don't you stop by Manhattan sometime, and I'll demonstrate it for you.

Which reminds me there are also situations where you have to jump from side to side to make sure both shoulders or pinning area are down, and by the time you get to the other the other shoulder may be up, its much easier to get a hand under there to be sure.

By the way the answer to your original question is no, in fact not not feeling for pins in situations I described earlier and many others is likely to make coaches more mad than not.


William Nigel Isom
Officials Director (USAWKS)
KSHSAA #14274
USAWKS #577
Riley KS