This is Nick Chrisman and I think that vogel would give me one heck of a match. We were warming up befor the finals and I could not do anything to him, he counters evrythhing, I think that he Is a better wrestler than me but who knows we will probley wrestle in the east west classics. So people stop arguing over who would win I dont think that either of us care we are just friends and we would just wrestle for fun