I was just trying to get his name brought up, and I was surprised that Salyer hadn't brought him up yet. I didn't mean anything else by it.

I didn't say the guys were terrible...I said the list was terrible. Kinda confusing, I know.

I bet Steve Andrus can beat all of those guys in bowling...I saw BIG STEVE at the Bowling Alley in the basement of KSU yesterday evening.

Terrible in what way?

I think I can take Steve Andrus in bowling, and maybe MancerL as well. I was about 13 when I bowled my high game of 258, which was also about the time that I quit. But I'm still the grand champion so back off.

I was 13 when I bowled a 268 so yeah, it would be quite a matchup.

Doesn't that make LancerM grand champion then?

when i was 17 i bowled a 98

Chief only one problem with ur list. u dont have one 3-2-1a wrestler on it.

That's because everyone knows 4a and 6a are superior to every other classification, by far. 5a is only on there because they're the second largest classification, so they must have at least one good wrestler out of those large numbers.

I vote for Clay Madden at 112, he is a 3x champ winning 103 in 1993, then 112 in 1994 and 1995.

Clay has a record of 88-9 currently heading into the upcomming season.

I couldn't agree with you more about 5a.

I believe you meant 2003, 2004, and 2005, as opposed to the 90's.

I would have to agree that it would be 2003,2004, & 2005 as in 2003 I lost to him 5-1 at the Jake Durham Invite then again at regionals in the semi-finals 13-2 or something horrible. But I would have to differ and go with Brett Bahe of Goodland as he has defeated Madden the last meeting for sure and possibly the one before that. Still a nice name to throw around in the mix.

Alex

WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE JESSE HARDY, NOLAN KELLERMAN, DONNY ALTMAN, AAORN ELY,COLLIN HASE, OR JED MAMIE, ALL THESES NAMES COULD FIT IN SOMEWHERE

I don't think that Jesse Hardy should be on the list. Good wrestler, but not in the same league as Strawn.

Hardy's got one wicked head throw though.

I wrestled a young Hardy when I was a senior and tech falled him about half way through the third period, something like 18-2. For someone to be on the list known as a thrower, you should be a little better than that. He's good, don't get me wrong, just not good enough to be considered the best in the state.

I agree completely. I was just saying that he has an awesome head throw.

Ok, so the list at the top is even more off than before. Strawn should be 215, he's a returing state champ and Edison is not. I don't know how well Born did at 189, but I highly doubt he's the best in the state. Is Erisman that heavy now? Didn't he compete at 160 for nationals? Won't that probably be where he is next year?