Quite a few times Travis. I like Roath a lot and he did a great job but if you want to be real honest about it the weight wasn't awfully difficult and he beat a freshman with 10 losses in the finals. Pyle won two state championships already, placed four times, has a win over the two timer that beat him a year ago, got beat by a state champion at the state tourney, it just comes down to situations and matchups. That takes nothing away from Roath he did a magnificent job, I am just saying those are the things that factor into it. Pyle is a heck of a wrestler. I think he only has about five losses in his life.