i'm thinkin the reason some of the western kansas teams dont travel outlandish distances to wrestle in god knows where is because they know that some of the best compatition is less than half a tank of gas away and yes i agree i would take hoxie over anybody... in a tournament but i think in a duel i might c Norton ks edging them with wins at 7 weights 103,112,125,145,152,160,275 were all of those norton kids have already beat their hoxie counterparts