Whoa!! I just want to go on record that I was simply refering to the Grand State and the value I remember in it as well as the reasons that I believe it failed to be renewed. I am equally enthusiastic about the dual state tourney. It has been successful in many states and would be here as well. I didnt mean to get in the middle of any debate of one versus the other as I am not currently coaching and I don't really know what conversations are currently taking place on these issues. I have never believed that the KSHSAA really had any interest in promoting wrestling as a major sport in this state even though it obviously is and has been for many many years if not decades. Look how hard the fight was to get medals for fifth and sixth place and that was a very easy thing to do if they really had the interest of the kids at heart. There are many good people on both sides of this issue, lots of great coaches who I know are NOT as self serving as they have been described in some of the posts here. All I know is that if there were some people in high offices of the state and national that were not former basketball coaches a lot of this stuff would be a non-issue. I mean the guy that started the state association and the national association was a basketball coach and I challenge you to find many if anyone in the state office now that was not in that position. I am not saying they do a bad job I am just saying they have no real love for this game like those of us who have sweat on the mat in anger.