Gutwrench,
You seemed to have changed tactics here. Since the numbers don't back up your claim that Kansas's wrestling style (what ever that is)is inferior, you instead try to shift the praise elsewhere instead of crediting the Kansas Wrestling Community for doing a good job.

I agree that Coach Klemm is a great coach, was a great asset to the Metro area, and helped develop some of the wrestlers you have mentioned. However, to imply that he is the only reason Kansas ranks well ahead of most states in D1 qualifiers based on population is ridiculous. What about Scott Coleman (2x All American) who did not train with Coach Klemm? Matt Murray, runner-up last year who did not train with Coach Klemm? Did Jake Kreigbaum train with Coach Klemm? Earl Jones (2x JuCo champ)? Eric Leudke (JuCo Champ)? What will you attribute their success to?

I do not dispute the fact that wrestling from the Neutral position is important but so is wrestling on the mat (both top and bottom).

Gutwrench I have several questions for you:
*How do you know what is taught in the practice rooms in this state?
*How many practice rooms have you been in?
*How many hours of preparation do you do to get ready for a season?
*How many hours do you stay up at night trying to think of new ways to get the most out of your athletes, most of whom are no where near D1 caliber wrestlers?

I do not know what you hope to accomplish through your incessant ranting about Kansas wrestling, but I can gaurantee you one thing, unless you become an actual participant (i.e. coach or official) you will never see the changes you would like.


Any fool can criticize, complain, and condemn- and most do.