"Gibby, those guys aren't DI AAs. Enough already from you and the Sunflower Gold. They're not EKWC in its hey day."
I never said they were D1 AA's, but pointed out there is a club (numerous actually) that have shared the vision of the importance of wrestling in the neutral position. I guess I implied it, sorry you couldn't read between the lines.
As for your Hall of Fame credentials - don't care really. Numerous people have made various Hall of Fames and are just idiots and had no sense of respect for the sport, those that have tried but didn't make it, or humanity. Ty Cobb is an example. Great player, an arse in the room. Mark McGwire - broke a lot of records, but now is under speculation of performance enhancement drugs. The NFL is loaded with them too. This is not to say that your impact on the sport (whatever it is) was not an accomplishment. What I am saying is that such an honor does not dictate that we all bow to the "wrestling guru."
Some individuals that have had an impact on a sport they did not succeed in? Lou Holtz and Naismith come to mind. If I remember correctly - Holtz never played college football, but he's pretty good in the coaching ranks. And Naismith? Didn't play basket ball in college (cause he invented it).
The point I'm driving at is that outstanding coaches don't just come with various honors from their competitive days. You've implied you know what your talking about because your name is in Stillwater - wow.
The point I'm driving is that yes, Klemm was a great coach (for those that could afford it, another topic altogether). At the same time, coaches across the state have picked up or have been doing it for some time the belief that to be in the top of the game, neutral position has to be of top priority.
Oh sure, there are some coaches out there that haven't figured it out. Just like some Hall of Fame wrestlers haven't figured out that sitting in front of a computer, berating the state as a whole, has done nothing to better the style of Kansas and actually "produce All-Americans."
Hey, let me know when sitting on your rear produces you any AA's DI or otherwise. Then I'll follow suit and tell everyone I know that I'm following the practice of Hall of Fame wrestler and astute professor of the sport, Professor Turd.
Meanwhile, I'll be in the practice room doing it the way I know how.
