I have to admit that ks 123 is right about sportsmanship! However, no one knows who you are and it means little to them except an insult! It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course, who at the best , knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat. I read this on Abilenes wrestling wall by FDR. So ks 123 if you have been in the arena your point would be taken. But we have no way of knowing! For all we know you're that cold and timid soul who just points out where the strong man stumbled. If you were someone else, I think you would at least state your name. And I hate to burst your bubble but you have not yet to begin to tamper with my tempor. Hope you still come and watch in Wichita! Happy Wrestling, kirk