Newbill thanks for making me laugh everytime you write a post.

By the way Luigi, I wasn't even talking about my bracket my senior year. I wrestled Razor my sophmore year. The only thing I mentioned about my senior year is that I wrestled Josh Carrol (I assume that he is appwrestling). By the way how are you doing up there?
But, anyway, another thing is that I don't care what you say about my punctuation because I am trying to type fast and I am a little pissed off about people talking s#%t to me about matches I've had in the past when they don't even know how the matches went. Also, I am not talking crap on Venegas. He is a good wrestler. All I am saying is my opinion about him if he were in a lower weight class. That's all. I'm not a s#%t talker, and I believen doing it on the mat. So before you people start judging me, read everything I wrote and you will see that I was not talking s#%t, I was just stating my opinion, which I thought was what this talk forum was for.

First a little note to newbill, i have seen many big guys run a 40 faster than the smaller guys, and the heavyweights may not have too much action in their matches but when that one throw finally comes it rocks the whole house, compared to a little trip by the little guys, not bashing on the little guys because i'm a 112 pounder, but all the matches are fun to watch in their own way, us little guys have the fast intense take downs, and the big guys have the "rock tha house" throws.

And by the way, I'm not stuck on my high school years. There are a few matches from high school that still bother me. But that's just life. Right now I'm looking into what I am going to do this next year, continue coaching or to go wrestle at Fort Hays.
Now I'll admit, my bracket my senior year was pretty tough, and I didn't wrestle very good in state that year, but I wasn't making any excuses about it. In fact I didn't even mention it. So for Luigi, you need to get your facts straight before you say that I was talking about my state bracket my senior year and that I was still living in my highschool days.

Luigi, by the way, if you were to look at my sophmore and junior year you would have seen that I did place.

When I say most heavyweights, I don't mean ALL heavyweights. There are a few heavyweights that come with that little extra, like Venegas.

Hasbeen I believe that you are getting the wrong picture here. I respect heavies alot. I want to teach them how to wrestle. I am real proud of my j.v. Kid. He wrestled this last weekend and won his j.v. tournament. He wrestled very well with good solid techniques. 3-0. He is very athletic and quick.

We all need to stop dissing the heavyweights until we've wrestled the weight class.

heavyweight is one of the most fun weights to watch because you have such a wide range in weight you get 200 ponders wrestling the 270 pound boys so you get to see two different styles a quick wrestler over a slow powerful wreslter.

I agree. Heavies are so fun to watch. Last year I watched Skinny Benny (Friedrichs of Marysville) wrestle Fat Pat (Muir of Stockton) at Beloit, and it was a great match. Once you get past all of the jiggling, you realize that there really is some interesting stuff that goes on.

luigi does wrestle like a fat man eventhough he shouldnt but heavy ppl are the best because they are the funny ppl and they are good matches

I remember back when I was in junior high school, we used to call our heavy weight "Denver." That all came from this old cartoon from our younger days called "Denver the Last Dinosaur." The heavy weights were dinosaurs because they all had large bodies and small brains. Now, we call them "ogres," because they're ugly and smell funny.

Just kidding, it's all in good fun. I used to be a middle weight, but now that I've suffered a few college years, I've "grown" a bit. Now, I'm involved in working with the heavyweights, or ogres. The guys I coach with and work with give me a lot of grief, but I've learned to respect them fatty, stinky, slow-movin' ogres.

They've got some adversities that they have to overcome directly because of their, um, larger girths. I know others have touched on this topic, so I won't dig in too deeply - shots. Try teaching a big guy how to shoot a hi-c and convince him that if he hits it correctly that he won't get his nose flattened by 200+ lbs. of ogre-meat. And then try to teach that same kid how to hit a sweep single. I hate to stereotype them, but heavier weights often lack that little thing we call athleticism. They work hard at being able to hit a technique like a sweep - and when they master it, it is impressive!

I guess I'm also a little biased - I loved Greco-Roman back in my day (all those many years ago?) and I love watching people get tossed. I guess you see more tosses in the upper 3-4 weights (sometimes I consider 171, 189, ans 215 to technically be ogres). All it takes is a little patience. Keep your eyes open a little longer than you think they could possibly remain open, and you will see that ogre hit an amazing move (I'm really exaggerating here; it happens quite often) and you will be impressed by it.