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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #61998 03/14/04 12:08 AM
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Nate, you're wrong. Look up the NCAA rules. You can't waive out-of-state tuition, regardless of how good you are. If a school offers a scholarship, the location of the recruit plays a big part in what percentage of a scholarship they are offered. But I'm sure Nigel has already told you about that, since many D-1 schools wanted him (ha ha).


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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #61999 03/14/04 12:31 AM
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Imagine Jhris on his first day back to school after losing the state title match. Thought he'd be walking in a hero but really just a big ol zero.

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Haha yeah you're right, I feel like crap. Losing my state title match in high school meant everything to me. My college career, and entire life were completely ruined in that match. Eventhough I'm not wrestling in college...and we won the team title which was more important....


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62001 03/14/04 01:00 AM
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Nate Smith that guy that you do not know, well he did what you could not you see he won his finals match his senior year

And tell me exactly how you have any class at all?

Are you going to the silver lake old timers ?

Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62002 03/14/04 01:10 AM
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My oldest son was offered a scholarship to new mexico state in Las Cruces. they offered books and in-state tuition. If my son had chosen to go there, and if he had had a 3.0 of better GPM coming out of the Community College that he was attending, the tuition would have been paid. Since his GPA was slightly below 3.0, all out of state tuition charges applied and he would have had to pay the difference between the two.
That is the only experience that I have had with
scholarships, and at the time the college explained that they supplemented athletic benefits with academic ones whenever the student had sufficient GPA to warrant it. Hard for me to say whether or not that is a universal practice, but they were doing that in N.M.

Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62003 03/14/04 01:12 AM
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I'll try and make it there Lucas. It will depend a little bit on how my classes are going and if I can afford to miss the study time. I should be ok though. Do I need to register before the tourney or can I do it the day of?

Dingbat academic scholarships offered by the school can waive out of state tuition. Most coaches recuit well-rounded athletes. I know this because the tuition was waived for me.

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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62004 03/14/04 03:34 AM
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Guys, your lives are pathetic. You've graduated from high school and you're still on here talking crap to high school kids. Just grow up and get lives for yourselves.

And in response to the whole, "I won my title" crap. Yes, Jhris didn't win. Neither did I. In fact I "choked" and got fifth. But you know what? I'm pretty sure we're both going to move on in life and take wrestling for what it is: a game. We could have done better but who really cares? I was upset for a while and I know Jhris was too, but since we haven't made wrestling the most paramount thing in our lives we're going to move on.

Frankly, I'm scared to wonder what you guys would have been like had you lost. You've built your whole lives around wrestling and if you hadn't achieved your goals you would have been depressed for the rest of your lives. Hell, I don't even know if what you have is better. Now you get to sit around your houses in your singlets watching tapes of yourselves when you were "studs" in high school, wondering why the rest of your lives couldn't be like wrestling because then you'd really "kick some ***."

Basically, Jhris and I wanted to win, yes. But we'll move on. Sadly, you guys won't ever move on. While Jhris and I go out and make money and have great lives, you're going to still be here wondering why people aren't still talking about you.

I hope you all enjoyed walking through the halls of your high schools as a "hero." It must have been pretty sweet...grow up you jackasses.

Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62005 03/14/04 03:35 AM
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Hmm, so Nigel was offered numerous D-1 scholarships? If one's grades are good enough, the school can wave out of state tuition at state institutions, but not at private schools (for they don't have out of state tuition). That means Igel would have been offered a scholarship from someone like OU, Oklahoma State, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Missouri, Northern Iowa, Michigan...so which one was it, Igel?

And I'm sure they would have waived the out of state tuition for our buddy, because as we all know, his grades in English and spelling must have been out of this world. Read his posts and you'll see that Abilene has its very own Shakespeare...

Still waiting to hear what those schools were, Igel.

Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62006 03/14/04 03:57 AM
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Baker, Smith, you're both correct, and me and LancerM are totally wrong. We're losers because we didn't win a high school state championship. It's obviously gotten you so far in life, that I need to be very jealous. I'm sorry for leading a pathetic life, where I will have success in other things other than wrestling. The large amounts of money I'm going to make mean nothing to the state championship brackets you have in your trailors.


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62007 03/14/04 04:03 AM
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Oh yeah......*swish*


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62008 03/14/04 06:11 AM
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Nate, you're wrong. Look up the NCAA rules. You can't waive out-of-state tuition, regardless of how good you are. If a school offers a scholarship, the location of the recruit plays a big part in what percentage of a scholarship they are offered. But I'm sure Nigel has already told you about that, since many D-1 schools wanted him (ha ha).
I'm not Nate but I collect a lot of things of NCAA and wrestling nature. Many schools will allow you to after a year in the state to change you tuition to instate...it's complicated but can happen. Nigel was actually wanted by a few D1 schools his senior year.


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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62009 03/14/04 07:08 AM
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Yes, after a year as a student with a local mailing address, you can be considered a permanent resident and in-state student. But that was not the topic. And I would LOVE to hear what D-1 schools offered Iigel Nisom a scholarship. Ha ha.


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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62010 03/14/04 08:56 AM
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It seems the tides have turned and at least SOME people know what they are talking about. Hint: it’s not those arguing against me. Yes indeed you can have your tuition waived, I did I can prove it; I still have the financial aid letters. My OOS tuition was waived for reasons other than academic which I choose not to list because it’s irrelevant. However DINGBAT you ARE WRONG PERIOD, you don't know what you are talking about and it’s been proven over and over again. As far Nate, Jhris, I find it hard to believe that you think he hasn't moved on with his life. If I am correct Nate is about to graduate from College which is probably farther than you will get and he's not the one on this site everyday talking about how good he is, and neither do I. I've come to the realization long ago that I am no longer a competitive wrestler for nothing more than the fact that my injury will not let me. However I stay involved in the sport because there are still so many people who makes this sport great, Richard is not included because apparently even with all his so called knowledge he still does not know that college do in fact present scholarships to non state champions (I’d make a list for you of kids just from Kansas, but then again since you like compiling stats so much, I’m sure you can do that on your own.), and I've lost all respect for the man because he apparently has none for me, but luckily for me I don't have to see him on a regular occasion or I think I would make a regular habit of ejecting him from tournaments for being an (insert another word for a donkey here). Please people, try and know what you are talking about on here before you post it. I assure you that scholarships are offered, scouts realize the potential of wrestlers not just based on the fact that they lose 1 match, just like Nate said. Now I'll also assure you that just like Aaron said, I WAS offered scholarships to several D-1 schools and just for FYI that was BEFORE I got hurt half way through my senior year (so in a sense at least Richard was partly right about something he said). I’m not going to sit here and list the schools and give you the satisfaction of knowing, its better to let you wonder but I will tell you they were from the Big 12 and 1 from the Big 10 (Prant your a pretty good guesser). But what does it matter? I don't wrestle anymore; I'm not going to wrestle anymore, well at least outside of recreational stuff. And no I don't feel the need to defend my self against trash talking high school kids who couldn’t beat me even on a bad day, but I do simply for my own amusement. Dingbat please just shut the heck up because everything you have said thus far has been wrong; it’s been proven wrong by at least three other people on here who have experienced similar situations. I’m sick of this subject, it should have never have been posted in the first place, knowing the controversy it would and has caused.


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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62011 03/14/04 09:59 AM
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I knew it!

I do not know Richard. But this weekend I was told by others that he is a short little PR_CK!(Insert vowel in space). I am surprised Richard hasn't listed 10 pages of rules and statutes on the handling of scholarships for OOS student athletes.

Nigel is not the one who started this topic and yet everyone accuses him of bashing on highschool kids. If you all dislike him so much, quit talking about him. I'm beginning to think you all have some type of man crush.


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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62012 03/14/04 01:31 PM
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Please dont assume that because i have a love for wrestling that i will not amount to anything in life I made 49k My first year out of school.

Jhris you still did not answer my question are you going to the silver lake old timers tourny?

Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62013 03/14/04 02:19 PM
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So life is mesured by a paycheck and not one's dignity?


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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62014 03/14/04 02:51 PM
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No, as they stated before, it's that bracket hanging up in his trailor. Nigel, you're not a very bright man. Of course I will go to college, and I can pretty much guarantee that I will make more than 49k my first year out. You see, I'm actually a pretty good business man, and someday, you're going to be in something that I own. As for me talking myself up, I encourage you to find one post, just one, where I'm serious in bragging about myself. In each post that I've said something good about myself, there is something bad, which is the true part, right after it. You really aren't a smart man, because time and time again people have recognized that I NEVER talk about myself in a good way, and am serious about it. I suck. There, I said it. According to all of you, since I didn't win a state championship, I will not be successful in life (lucas b baker, who is making crap compared to what I will make). Nigel, you say that none of these people have moved on, and well, you're very wrong. As for me, of course I haven't moved on, because I'm still involved unlike baker. I plan on coaching kids and freestyle for kids at my school. I'm just a kid still and you are all a lot older, and the maturity level you have is certainly shown when you try to argue with someone that's not even out of high school. Ha. Anyways, I encourage all of you to try to find a post where I was seriously bragging about myself. If you find one that sounds like it, I'm sure I can find a post in the same topic that says it was a joke.

And no you moron, I have stated several times that I'm having knee surgery. How can I wrestled with a cast on my leg?


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62015 03/14/04 04:16 PM
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Can I hold you to that Jhris about freestyle. I've got a soon to be freshman that goes 245 and needs to learn how to wrestle like a big boy.

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Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62016 03/14/04 04:33 PM
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Oh yeah, sounds like a delicious project. I'll be there, crutches and all.


So this kid is putting on his shoes right, and his mom says, honey you're putting your shoes on the wrong feet, and the little kid says, no mom these are my feet
Re: Jhris vs Nigel #62017 03/14/04 09:52 PM
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Nigel's posts are not unlike an addictive drug. You know that nothing good can come out of them, you know that they are only going to kill your brain cells, but you can't keep from coming back to them. Well, I'll see you for my daily fix tomorrow.


Retard.


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