Sorry for the length. Grab a coke and sit a while.....
Sportsfan states:
“Maybe that is why we wrestle folkstyle during the school year. Why should the KSHSAA be concerned anymore about FS/GR than they are about surfing? Neither happen on their watch or concern their constituents ie. the schools.”
Which would be a great idea, but as he/she knows (or should know) this is not the case. In order to not be concerned about something would mean you did not waste your time in creating a rule to govern it by. It’s like blowing your nose. No laws on how to do it, so we don’t concern ourselves with it. However, rules are in place for FS/GR, rules of which in my opinion are restrictive. This would mean that they ARE concerned. So much that they create rules for their constituents, i.e., the schools.
Later Sportsfan states:
“I believe that's called winning. Where and when has KSHSAA lost a court ruling? They haven't quit, they just win every time and usually for good reason.”
To which I replied:
“If you consider being removed from voting in the national adoption of rules as winning, yes we've won. What a great message to send to our kids.” I’m still curious as to how many states actually don’t have voting rights for wrestling. I have yet to receive any minutes.
Then Sportsfan quips:
“So you would be willing to go to the polls if you only had the choice of one party/candidate? If so, you would love living in some of these third world countries.”
Showing true intelligence, Sportsfan either didn’t realize we do have such choices within our ballots. Judges are one. Bond issues another. In small towns, the mayor may run unapposed. Same true for city/county council. America, under this person’s astute knowledge, is a third world country.
Nice civics lesson (yawn).
Again…..
“Another question, didn't USAW choose to NOT follow all of the new FILA rules this year? If so, does that make USAW or FILA wrong?”
That’s like saying the UN has control of America. Many countries have their own version of wrestling. FILA is an international body. Hence the UN comparison.
Because I did not answer this question (sorry, I thought it was rhetorical. I didn’t know you really didn’t know the makeup of the organization) in a timely fashion, I do answer it later:
“Also, has the KWCA been pushing for more coaching time? If not, why? I don't hear coaches complaining since the summer time ban was lifted. But maybe I'm only exposed to the reasonable ones.”
I get this:
I would hope so! After all, that is the sport they coach. Thank you for finally answering the question.
I say we go with what the majority of what KWCA agree is the priority.
I'm not a member of KWCA or a coach and the coaches I tend to find the most "knowledgeable" are the ones who haven't been fired from a teaching/coaching position for poor performance.
Of course this person knows exactly my history and once realizes that the really don’t know much about me, KSHSAA, KWCA, or anything for that matter, posts something they (again) know nothing about. In fact, if it weren’t for my candor and sincerity, sportsfan wouldn’t even know this much.
And I’m curious, as it’s been explained to me KWCA doesn’t include all coaches (strictly voluntary) and since this individual is not a member of said group, how can the individual know what is discussed in the annual meeting. As most groups will do, there are a variety of issues brought to the table and only two or three are moved forward for various reasons. Does the fact that KWCA hasn’t moved toward championing the cause mean they don’t agree? No.
Finally, as sportsfan has eloquently stated in tnt’s defense of me:
“I would disagree with your definition of intelligent then. Besides, Gibby when confronted with facts or differences of opinion is the one who starts name calling. He invites abuse, to ignore it would be impolite. Gibby has shown that he simply has an axe to grind with any person or body of authority.”
Where to begin…
First off, facts were never supplied by you. Informative analysis was never provided by you. In fact, nothing was really ever provided by you. Well, unless you want to include the quote from the KSHSAA mission statement, which by the way I had already done before the post.
Things I have brought to the discussion:
1. The weight number is arbitrary and the tools used have high degrees of variance. I think this is very important in the discussion.
2. The 1.5%, in conjunction with the 10% weight reduction can be achieve and is designed to have wrestlers lose weight responsibly. I along with many of us out there have done it the wrong way and the plan is designed to reduce those errors we made as participants and the leverage required against zealous parents that think Tommy losing 10 lbs in two days is just fine.
3. The hydration test, though gross, is not too demanding. It will further give us leverages as Tommy is losing weight irresponsibly.
4. With full adoption of the National policy, the argument against shoulder to shoulder weigh-ins become less. As Mr. Bowden has stated in various meetings through the course of time, we don’t want kids walking the halls all day hungry. The plan will ensure that statement by limiting the days before a meet that a kid skips lunch. (I did it as well as others).
5. By becoming voting members of the organization, we can be in the room as voting takes place and can take a proactive measure to limit the numerous nuances by being a leader in the causes that will come forward throughout time. Can do it by sitting on the bench.
6. In the list of litigation, as I’ve explained, if there is a better plan out there, it should be adopted. Granted, no one has ever died in Kansas, in the event someone does – we’re sitting ducks. Even if cost was a concern, and let’s say its $1000 dollars, if something were to happen, would a jury of our peers be willing to agree with us in our statement of “we didn’t adopt the national plan because we couldn’t come up with $1000 dollars?”
Well there’s six things right off the top of my head. Sportsfan, I encourage academic debate. What is it that you brought to the table of discussion again?
