Hey Greenback fan do you know Dick Cramer. Old guy reallly really old guy. If you do tell him to get on here and chime in. Tell him I sent you.

On the subject, it is so hard to pick programs but I think easier to pick states. I was amazed when I went to nationals over the last ten years how many kids in the finals and semi's were from Ohio. Those kids have to be coming from somewhere. One of the more underated states is South Dakota. Been several national champs that originated up there and there aren't too many people up there anyway so the ones they have must be pretty tough.