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Re: 4a team state contenders #71365 02/03/02 09:52 PM
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MR WHITE Sorry to hear weishaar was sick. glad you cleared that up because the sarcastic side of me would have found it necessary out of justice and all to respond to your question
"ISN'T VOGELSBURG WRESTLING AT 160 THIS WEEKEND. IS HE TRYING TO DODGE WEISHAAR"
You know once a fellow gets to thinking about that question a sarcastic fellow like me might have turned that question around when weishaar didn't wrestle and asked him the same.

Re: 4a team state contenders #71366 02/03/02 11:10 PM
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just for the record. I have followed Marysville under Coach Shottler, Coach Phillippi, Coach Peterson, Coach Hemmerling, and Coach Jackson. That's about 35 years and never once can I re-call them dodging anyone? can your school say the same?? careful!

Re: 4a team state contenders #71367 02/04/02 01:12 AM
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CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT? I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE COACHES OR CAN'T YOU READ. AND WHO CARES WHO YOU HAVE FOLLOWED ARE THE COACHES THE ONES WHO DO THE WRESTLING? THATS 35 YEARS OF THINGS I COULD CARE LESS OF. WHAT WEIGHT CLASS IS VOGELSBERG AT NOW AND WHERE DID THEY GO LAST WEEKEND. BECAUSE I BELIEVE LATTIMER AND WEISHAAR WOULD LIKE TO WRESTLE HIM ANYTIME. AND PLEASE NEXT TIME WHEN YOU WRITE BACK DON'T GIVE ME A HISTORY LESSON. I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR THAT.

Re: 4a team state contenders #71368 02/04/02 03:18 AM
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well you apparently need a history lesson if you are accusing marysville kids of dodging people. don't flatter yourself.

Re: 4a team state contenders #71369 02/04/02 07:17 PM
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HEY FANATIC,
DON'T FLATTER MYSELF? WITH WHAT? I AM TALKING ABOUT WRESTLING NOT MYSELF. DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT. YOU COULDN'T EVEN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING MARYSVILLE SO LONG BUT COULDN'T EVEN GIVE ME ANSWERS FOR ONLY TWO QUESTIONS. YOU SURE KNOW THE COACHES WELL BUT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. YOU WANT HISTORY. GOOD READ. YOU WANT RESULTS WATCH WEISHAAR. ANY MORE DUMB REPLIES?

Re: 4a team state contenders #71370 02/04/02 09:06 PM
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Mr.White,
I am going to go with fanatic on this one and say that Pat was not running from little jake and never would. Pat is a great wrestler and would never run from anyone. I can't understand how you can say that jake or lattimer could beat him, neither one of them are close to Pat's level. Jake didn't do so good at state last year did he?? And pat was 1 point away from the finals. I seen jake wrestle last year at regionals and he was nothing beyond average. I also seen him wrestle at the salina south tourny this year and he was no better then he was last year. Not to take anything away from jake but Pat would destroy him. Also look for Mike Howell to do some damage.

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J FACE,
REAL GOOD NAME "LITTLE JAKE" I WILL REMEMBER THAT AND I HOPE YOU DO TO. BECAUSE I GUESS YOU ARE BLIND BECAUSE LITTLE JAKE IS 30 POUNDS HEAVIER THAN LAST YEAR. HE STRONGER AND FASTER. IF YOU THINK ABOUT HIS AGE HE WAS 15 LAST YEAR. AND ONLY 16 THIS YEAR SO HE IS STILL DEVELOPING WHILE OTHER KIDS ARE WAY AHEAD. AND COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT WEIGHT PAT IS GOING TO WRESTLE. I KNOW THAT LITTLE JAKE HAS WRESTLED THIS YEAR AT 171 AND WHAT, 189. BUT WE KNOW HE IS A 171. I AM SURE THAT LATTIMER IS NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT PAT. I BET THAT HE IS THINKING MORE ABOUT LITTLE JAKE, THEN BIG PAT. AND I ALSO HEARD ABOUT HOWELL HE IS ALSO A TOP CONTENDER BUT TO SAY LITTLE JAKE ISN'T, IS AN INSULT.

Re: 4a team state contenders #71372 02/05/02 12:33 AM
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To Marcus
I watched the Basehor/SFT dual the other night and I saw things from a much different perspective. I know that Basehor just came off a tough two day tournament in Garden City where they placed 7th out of 17 teams and they only took seven wrestlers. From what I heard Dukes and Buck were in some very tough brackets, so I imagine they were pretty tired Monday night. I also know at the dual Monday, Basehor was open in 4 weight classes and Trail was open in 1. If you add that up, Basehor spot Trail 18 points and Trail still only won by 6 points. If you look at the 9 head-to-head matches, Basehor won 6 and Trail won 3. I don't think I would put any feathers in my hat for that victory Marcus. I'm sure that you will probably see Basehor out to prove a few things in the league tournament.

Re: 4a team state contenders #71373 02/05/02 01:37 AM
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I dunno how good basehor is this year but i know that the Santa Fe Trail, basehor dual is always a bit dual for both teams so i know that if scott could of filled his roster then he would of. So i give santa fe credit. Another thing what about these two freshman guys from santa fe, if they gave the number 1 ranked guys in state a heck of a match then trail might have enough fire power to make a little noise at the state tournament when you put those two guys along with betsworth and mcburney and a couple other guys that could gain some points. true they are not ranked but they can definitely make some noise if they are all having the kind of weekend that you need to have.


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Re: 4a team state contenders #71374 02/05/02 02:48 AM
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I was also at the Basheor S.F.T duel. I wouldn't exactly say that dukes had a tough weekend he pinned everyone who stepped in his way including a 19 second pin in the finals. I know for a fact that the Two Freshman (Justin Wiscombe) and (Travis Eden) worked hard and prepared for their tough matches that they new they were going to have. It was a hard fought duel as always SFT and Basheor is a dog fight. Yes it is true that Basheor had a 3 open weights, 125 cody betsworth who is yet to be defeteated this year and is wrestling like a champion, 103freshmen Tyler Cordts who wrestling tuff for Trail this year and 135 pound Freshman Max Connelly who has won some big matches for us this year. And Trail beat Basheor by more then six with an awseome head lock thrown by Daniel Squires for a fall in the 215 pound weight class clenching the win for us. SFT might surprise some people at state this year and in the future.


Well i was also at the basehor SFT duel infact i wrestled in it. Yes dukes and buck did have a good tournament but dukes pinned everyone that stepped in his way, including a 19 second pin in the finals. So he couldn't of been that tired. The freshman were well prepared and trained hard to compete with dukes and buck. The weights that basheor were open at was 125 which we have cody betsworth, 103 which we have a tough freshmen who is having a good year with a winning record, and 135 where we have max connelly who has been wrestling well this year. I would watch out for santa fe trail at state we are likley to surprise some people...
Re: 4a team state contenders #71375 02/05/02 04:56 PM
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Before anyone gets off saying that Dukes was almost beat by a freshman you need to know that Dukes has 2 torn muscles in his chest that is causes him to be short of breath and minimizes his arm reach. How do I know I wrestled him in garden City. I am not making excuses because I know that the kid from SFT is good for a freshman and can only get better, but thats my in put on the whole thing.
As for Dukes and Stirling I feel Dukes has the upper hand all the way and will be well prepared
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Re: 4a team state contenders #71376 02/07/02 01:02 AM
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i think it was a tough dual that could of went either way between sft and bas. if bash. would of had a full team (if thats their excuse). we got league this weekend its a tournament, so we will see who is the better tournament team if duals don't matter to anybody. there is only one way to prove who is the better team and thats on the mat. i say everybody let the wrestling talk. sft don't have any hard feelings with bas. cause sat. night after state we plan to stay with some of their wrestlers.

Re: 4a team state contenders #71377 02/07/02 02:20 PM
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I totally agree with you guys on the no hard feelings thing I know that some of the Basehor wrestlers were complaining becuase they weren't staying in the same hotel as SFT. They all respect each other.

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