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Re: Takedown Record #72199 03/07/05 10:21 PM
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That's too bad. Is he coaching now, because it sounds like he would have a lot of knowledge to share.


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There was a wrestler out of Nebraska a few years ago that had 367 in one year and that was in like 37 matches. Finished his career with 954 and an unbeaten 4x champion. He didn't even start the takedown game until after his freshman season either. I believe he said he could go out and pin everyone in 10 seconds if he wanted but that his coach preferred him to get some mat time.

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Thats incredible.


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Re: Takedown Record #72202 03/07/05 10:28 PM
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Curtis--I believe he is either finishing up or has already finished school at K-State. Not sure if he is coaching or not, he did for awhile at Missouri (after the injury).

Different subject--Have you made your decision for college? Did you ever take a visit to Newman? You were scheduled to visit the day after we had gone to meet with Coach Stovall. Best of luck to you!


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Re: Takedown Record #72203 03/07/05 10:34 PM
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Yeah. It's a great school and right now thats looking like thats where I'll go. It all depends on what Labbette is going to be able to offer me. I feel that I'll have great opportunities at either school. I'll wait to make my decision after my visit to Labbette.


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Re: Takedown Record #72204 03/08/05 03:37 AM
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I find it amusing that some people here think taking their opponent down several times during a match is a disgrace to the aggressive wrestler. The statement that one doing so is "running up the score" is a joke. Last I knew there was a tech fall rule that prevented it. Of course they are trying to "increase their score". That's the object of the match while looking for the opportunity to get a pin.

What difference does it make if they do it by getting a bunch of near fall points (like good leg wrestlers will often do) or if they get'em by taking their opponents to the mat several times? Each wrestler should be applying their skills to the best of their ability. Since each wrestler's talent and skills are different, we see a variety of approaches to winning a wrestling match. Wouldn't it be pretty boring if everyone used exactly the same moves in every match?

PS: Interesting that there is also another current thread talking about Kansas wrestlers not being good enough on their feet to be of interest to D1 coaches. Hmm.

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There are also the kids who cut because while they're great at taking people down, they can't do anything when they get there. I've seen that more than a few times.

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Hopefully us Kansans will prove our skills on our feet at nationals and show that us Kansans know how to wrestle well enough to win matches against opponents from across the nation.


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Re: Takedown Record #72207 03/08/05 04:38 AM
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I'm thinking the kid from Nebraska is Daniel Hilario out of Omaha Burke High School. All-American wrestler at UNO now. Kid is insane on his feet. I'm not sure if Dan won state all 4 years though. I'm thinking he got 3rd his freshman year and then proceeded to win it. I know for sure there is at least three brackets hanging on the wall at his house, but it's been 2 years...so I don't know.

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Not Hilario. Brett Allgood. Pretty sure he won a JUCO National title at Iowa Central and now is redshirting at Kearney at the same weight as Charbonneau.

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needlles, did he just do this in the last 2-3 years? I'm positive you're right just knew thought I had heard Hilario had the record for Nebraska when he was a Fr. at UNO.

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I think Hilario has one of the division records but they competed in different classes.

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